My dad just witnessed a mass-shooting in Carson City

[SteyrAUG]

However, I must be stupid, because I would have gone in after this guy.

It is one thing to understand the risks and still be willing to climb out on that very thin limb for others. I don't blame anyone who won't, I won't criticize anyone who will.

I'd like to believe I'd be willing to do it. That said, taking on a 7.62 rifle with a 9mm handgun is a very tall order. But toss in a room full of women and kids and I can see lots of people who otherwise know better attempting some very stupid shit.

[A-Bear680]

Are there any updates or other new information available from the media or witnesses like Mr. Kaltesherz ? This is a very interesting case and it usually takes some time for all of the the relevant facts to surface .

[glocktogo]

With 2 of the victims being military, I'm sure I'm not the only one hoping this wasn't a "Lone Wolf" type attack.

[SteyrAUG]

With 2 of the victims being military, I'm sure I'm not the only one hoping this wasn't a "Lone Wolf" type attack.

So far they aren't releasing details of the shooter.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/06...son-city-ihop/

But I suspect many of us are wondering the same thing.

[A-Bear680]

With 2 of the victims being military, I'm sure I'm not the only one hoping this wasn't a "Lone Wolf" type attack.

Yeah , the current case reminds me of the recruiting station wanna-be mass murderer in (IIRC ) Arkansas a few years ago. Unfotunately the wanna-be killed one young recruit and wounded another . No other good guys were hurt - but that was pure blind luck . The recruiting station station staff had no effective means to protect themselves or anyone else. They must have felt like fire department guys whose bosses refuse to allow fire extinguishers in cars and offices .

[A-Bear680]

So far they aren't releasing details of the shooter.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/06...son-city-ihop/

But I suspect many of us are wondering the same thing.

So far , the news reports seem to be above average . There are relevant facts flowing in a way that suggests some level of competent reporting . A couple of things jumped out at me :
At least 2 of the good guys who got hit were in uniform .
The murderer is wounded , in custody , and is not counted in the headline total of dead and wounded.

The reporting seems to be recognising possibilities , not jumping to conclusions , and avoided the usual newsie bullshit of lumping the dead or wounded dirtbags in with the " victims " .

Of course , some of the best newsies are veterans and/or National Guard/Reserve guys who have the right stuff to report on this type of incident.

[SteyrAUG]

So far , the news reports seem to be above average . There are relevant facts flowing in a way that suggests some level of competent reporting . A couple of things jumped out at me :
At least 2 of the good guys who got hit were in uniform .
The murderer is wounded , in custody , and is not counted in the headline total of dead and wounded.

The reporting seems to be recognising possibilities , not jumping to conclusions , and avoided the usual newsie bullshit of lumping the dead or wounded dirtbags in with the " victims " .

Of course , some of the best newsies are veterans and/or National Guard/Reserve guys who have the right stuff to report on this type of incident.

I'm not opposed to responsible journalism. But just as we don't care for unfounded sensationalism, I'm not terribly fond of suppression of facts that don't support an editorial bias.

I still remember many initial reports of the Ft. Hood shooting where they flatly stated it was not an act of Islamic terrorism.

[ThirdWatcher]

I'd like to believe I'd be willing to do it. That said, taking on a 7.62 rifle with a 9mm handgun is a very tall order. But toss in a room full of women and kids and I can see lots of people who otherwise know better attempting some very stupid shit.

Active Shooters are cowards and they usually shoot themselves at the first sign of real resistance.

[Belmont31R]

Intervening with your CCW with an active shooter is a very risky proposition, and a personal decision. Can't fault a person for looking out for their own neck especially if they have a family at home. Family comes first for me. For me it depends on the situation. Multiples with long guns and me with a pistol? No way. One dude I can shoot in the back? Easy shot and choice. This ain't 24 where people easily make 50 yard shots with pistols and the BG goes down with one hit and a SWAT team shows up at the right exact moment to save your skin when you need it.

[A-Bear680]

Update :
A couple of other media sources are now reporting that the murderer has died.