My dad just witnessed a mass-shooting in Carson City

[Iraqgunz]

I have read several articles thus far and no mention of full auto, yet. I would like to know for sure. Making an AK full auto isn't that easy unless you know exactly what you are doing.

[CLHC]

Heard about this on the radio this morning.

It is one thing to understand the risks and still be willing to climb out on that very thin limb for others. I don't blame anyone who won't, I won't criticize anyone who will.

I'd like to believe I'd be willing to do it. That said, taking on a 7.62 rifle with a 9mm handgun is a very tall order. But toss in a room full of women and kids and I can see lots of people who otherwise know better attempting some very stupid shit.

Very thought provoking I'd say.

Intervening with your CCW with an active shooter is a very risky proposition, and a personal decision. Can't fault a person for looking out for their own neck especially if they have a family at home. Family comes first for me. For me it depends on the situation. Multiples with long guns and me with a pistol? No way. One dude I can shoot in the back? Easy shot and choice. This ain't 24 where people easily make 50 yard shots with pistols and the BG goes down with one hit and a SWAT team shows up at the right exact moment to save your skin when you need it.

[Army Chief]

Honestly, why don't these tortured souls just chug a 32-ounce bottle of Drano and save us all the headlines, the hysteria and the horror?

How exasperating.

AC

[Iraqgunz]

There's a fine line between heroes and fools. If I was able to intervene smartly I would do so. Otherwise I would try to be a good witness. Carson City is a nice place, it's too bad.

[A-Bear680]

I'm not opposed to responsible journalism. But just as we don't care for unfounded sensationalism, I'm not terribly fond of suppression of facts that don't support an editorial bias.

I still remember many initial reports of the Ft. Hood shooting where they flatly stated it was not an act of Islamic terrorism.

Won't get any arguement from me about any of that . One of the things that bothered me about the Ft. Hood slaughter media coverage was the hoopla about who-deserves-credit-for-putting Major Dr. Whacko Murdering Scumbag on the ground and out of the murder business.
The two armed good guys who stopped the murdering on that day at in Texas had completely different demographics and completely different roles in the fight . In general , the media did a very poor job of sorting that issue out. There was a great deal of selective reporting , sensationism and all that . Some media outlets played that game ( IMO ) purely to get breathless dramatic stories out really fast and then stirred up as much contraversy as possible to create even more buzz about the story and boost their customer/consumer stats.
Switching gears , the next ( very inter-related ) issues might be :
How and/or why did Dr. Major Scumbag , Murderer , slip through the system and why and how was he blessed with so many helpless victims at exactly that time and place ?
In many places , at many other times , his wanna-be ass would have been on the ground -- bleeding out , beyond saving -- and lot more good guys would have gone to supper on schedule .

[montanadave]

Honestly, why don't these tortured souls just chug a 32-ounce bottle of Drano and save us all the headlines, the hysteria and the horror?

How exasperating.

AC

No shit!

I can understand the desire to take one's own life. I cannot understand the desire to indiscriminately murder innocent people.

ETA: To the OP-- Sorry, forgot to say I'm thankful your father escaped unharmed.

[4x4twenty6]

Belmont you bring up a good point about intervening with multiple attackers in an active shooter situation with just your side arm.

Police officers had to face heavily armed foes with just their pistol at one time and unfortunately for those injured and killed, those situations led to better armed police forces. It is sad that so many folks had to die before something was done in response to heavily armed assailants.

Who is to say if one person who is CC'ing engages the target that another wont join him? That would be awesome! More people CC'ing with good training could be highly effective. Imagine the type of positive media attention that would also get.(and negative of course) But those of us who are informed should consider what i said above.

Police are sometimes 2 to 10 minutes away and SWAT even longer!
A lot of dept's ride solo patrol too so if one car shows up all you may get is one officer who hopefully has a long gun.

Just a few ideas and instances i thought i would throw out there to spur some more opinions.

[Zhurdan]

No shit!

I can understand the desire to take one's own life. I cannot understand the desire to indiscriminately murder innocent people.

ETA: To the OP-- Sorry, forgot to say I'm thankful your father escaped unharmed.

Give it time, we may find out if it was indiscriminate or not. Either way, it's a punk ass move on the shooters part.

OP, glad your dad is ok.

[Littlelebowski]

Honestly, why don't these tortured souls just chug a 32-ounce bottle of Drano and save us all the headlines, the hysteria and the horror?

How exasperating.

AC

Exactly. Or inhale a 7.62x39mm....... God, it is frustrating, these cowards.

[SW-Shooter]

I think we can all thank Soulja Boy for the shooting, it clearly was a shooting that targeted Armed Forces members, I believe everything else was collateral damage.