My dad just witnessed a mass-shooting in Carson City

[ThirdWatcher]

Intervening with your CCW with an active shooter is a very risky proposition, and a personal decision. Can't fault a person for looking out for their own neck especially if they have a family at home. Family comes first for me. For me it depends on the situation. Multiples with long guns and me with a pistol? No way. One dude I can shoot in the back? Easy shot and choice. This ain't 24 where people easily make 50 yard shots with pistols and the BG goes down with one hit and a SWAT team shows up at the right exact moment to save your skin when you need it.

I totally agree, except living with myself has always been the most important thing for me.

[mskdgunman]

One mans opinion but when you strap on a weapon, either as an armed civilian or a LEO, you accept a certain responsibility with part of that being a duty to protect others not so armed in the event of imment life threatening danger. I know that some will say that thats what we (the cops) get paid for and thats true. We also have wives, husbands and children at the house we would all like to return to but we would also like you to return to yours. No situation is cut and dried but for those that carry, we do so with the stated purpose to protect life, ours among that. If we have the opportunity and the means to save a life (or several) and don't take it, we do a diservice to society and ourselves. As has been pointed out, most all LE agencies these days are single car units and, as has also been pointed out the cops usually get there after the fact except in rare occasions. Do we just stand by and watch while some wack-job murders a bunch of sheep whenwe have the capacity to end it quickly? I understand the desire to stay safe and to go home to our loved ones but I for one would have a hard time living with myself knowing that I had done nothing. I know that there are many here who feel the same way. As I said, one mans opinion.

To the OP, glad your Dad is ok. Thats a bad position to be in made even worse by being unarmed.

[ThirdWatcher]

One mans opinion but when you strap on a weapon, either as an armed civilian or a LEO, you accept a certain responsibility with part of that being a duty to protect others not so armed in the event of imment life threatening danger. I know that some will say that thats what we (the cops) get paid for and thats true. We also have wives, husbands and children at the house we would all like to return to but we would also like you to return to yours. No situation is cut and dried but for those that carry, we do so with the stated purpose to protect life, ours among that. If we have the opportunity and the means to save a life (or several) and don't take it, we do a diservice to society and ourselves. As has been pointed out, most all LE agencies these days are single car units and, as has also been pointed out the cops usually get there after the fact except in rare occasions. Do we just stand by and watch while some wack-job murders a bunch of sheep whenwe have the capacity to end it quickly? I understand the desire to stay safe and to go home to our loved ones but I for one would have a hard time living with myself knowing that I had done nothing. I know that there are many here who feel the same way. As I said, one mans opinion.

To the OP, glad your Dad is ok. Thats a bad position to be in made even worse by being unarmed.

Make that two.

[QuietShootr]

One mans opinion but when you strap on a weapon, either as an armed civilian or a LEO, you accept a certain responsibility with part of that being a duty to protect others not so armed in the event of imment life threatening danger. I know that some will say that thats what we (the cops) get paid for and thats true. We also have wives, husbands and children at the house we would all like to return to but we would also like you to return to yours. No situation is cut and dried but for those that carry, we do so with the stated purpose to protect life, ours among that. If we have the opportunity and the means to save a life (or several) and don't take it, we do a diservice to society and ourselves. As has been pointed out, most all LE agencies these days are single car units and, as has also been pointed out the cops usually get there after the fact except in rare occasions. Do we just stand by and watch while some wack-job murders a bunch of sheep whenwe have the capacity to end it quickly? I understand the desire to stay safe and to go home to our loved ones but I for one would have a hard time living with myself knowing that I had done nothing. I know that there are many here who feel the same way. As I said, one mans opinion.

To the OP, glad your Dad is ok. Thats a bad position to be in made even worse by being unarmed.

bullshit. If I'm not getting paid by the king, I have no responsibility for any of his subjects but my own. If they want me to take on that responsibility, they can pass a Good Samaritan law that shields an armed citizen from criminal and civil liability when they try to intervene in an action such as this. Until then, sorry about you and yours.

Y'all made this world. I just live in it.

[Irish]

If they want me to take on that responsibility, they can pass a Good Samaritan law that shields an armed citizen from criminal and civil liability when they try to intervene in an action such as this.

Anyone bringing this to a vote would get my full support. Latest news is 6 wounded, 3 murdered. A sad day for Nevada.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

There's a fine line between heroes and fools. If I was able to intervene smartly I would do so. Otherwise I would try to be a good witness. Carson City is a nice place, it's too bad.

The only way I'd get in a fair fight with him is if I have to. Otherwise I'd fight dirty and unfair.


If I could posit a theory. He was just on a shooting rampage and he engaged the military guys in the thought that they might be armed. He started shooting before he went in, so I don't think it was military focused attack. Too bad the NG guys were probably the least likely to be armed?

[A-Bear680]

Anyone bringing this to a vote would get my full support. Latest news is 6 wounded, 3 murdered. A sad day for Nevada.

A very sad day. 6 people wounded 3 dead.
Plus one murdering dirtbag who was captured and is either is badly wounded and in critical condition ... or... has already been dead for a number of hours. Whichever story turns out to be true , at least he won't be murdering anybody anytime soon. And the newies ( so far ) have not lumped him together with the victims to inflate the numbers.

[theblackknight]

However, I must be stupid, because I would have gone in after this guy.

**** no, hes gonna have to reload some time. Everytime i hear of a event like this I always think"wish I was there". Is this foolish?

[4x4twenty6]

Not at all blackknight. I tend to feel the same way.

[Mauser KAR98K]

Wow, small world. Glad your father is okay.

Blaze has a write up that is interesting. Their report says there was someone armed, but he never engaged the active shooter because "he had already gone inside," and noting that when he came out he wasn't going to go against him because of the AK 47.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ihop...uardo-sencion/

There was also another nut-job in WV who killed 5 as well. What the **** is going on with the world?