Another form of readiness?

[munch520]

By chance, got talking with someone who I find out is part of a local militia here in Ohio. He's a doctor, great family, married to an Asian-American woman...basically the opposite of who media portrays when they do their so called exposes on militias. To quote a forum member from a year or two ago, the stereotype of militias or training groups is:

Militias, other than state sponsored ones, have been portrait as racist, radical, separatist, and used often by racist groups, to justify there existence in arming themselves for the "race wars" that never came to fruition, etc.... so just looking for some clarity.

My question is...what's the thoughts of everyone here on this in the present day? In the event of large scale disaster or terror attack where a real organized defense is needed to assist law enforcement (assuming military is still spread abroad), what value do modern day militias provide? Is there a place here for some kind of standardized training? Should this be government approved training, as in how CCW courses are taught by private business or individuals certified to do so by the government. I've never given a second thought to joining and I'm neither for or against since I'm largely uneducated on the subject.

[Ironman8]

By chance, got talking with someone who I find out is part of a local militia here in Ohio. He's a doctor, great family, married to an Asian-American woman...basically the opposite of who media portrays when they do their so called exposes on militias. To quote a forum member from a year or two ago, the stereotype of militias or training groups is:


My question is...what's the thoughts of everyone here on this in the present day? In the event of large scale disaster or terror attack where a real organized defense is needed to assist law enforcement (assuming military is still spread abroad), what value do modern day militias provide? Is there a place here for some kind of standardized training? Should this be government approved training, as in how CCW courses are taught by private business or individuals certified to do so by the government. I'm neither for or against since I'm largely uneducated on the subject.

No it should absolutely not be approved by the government. It is a Constitutionally granted right for The People to keep "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." (Second Amendment).

Whether you want to do it or not is a personal choice...

[munch520]

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/10C13.txt

Good point, it is stated in a few places that it is a granted right. I'm not trying to figure out whether to join or not, just curious to find out more from anyone that has any firsthand experience. The gentleman that I talked to generally told me how dialed in groups around here were in terms of continuity of training and communication, but he was unsure how similar various groups are scattered around the country.

[Ironman8]

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/10C13.txt

Good point, it is stated in a few places that it is a granted right. I'm not trying to figure out whether to join or not, just curious to find out more from anyone that has any firsthand experience. The gentleman that I talked to generally told me how dialed in groups around here were in terms of continuity of training and communication, but he was unsure how similar various groups are scattered around the country.

Like with anything, I'm sure there are very dialed in, well trained militias, and then those who can't get enough of the hillbilly rambo mentality. I have experience with neither btw...

[Stangman]

Don't have much to say about the militia part, but government regulation is certainly not the right answer.

[munch520]

Don't have much to say about the militia part, but government regulation is certainly not the right answer.

Yeah I regret saying that...standardization and regulation in training to a degree is what I was getting at, but I agree, not at the hands of the gov't

and then those who can't get enough of the hillbilly rambo mentality. I have experience with neither btw...

me neither and right or wrong that's what I think of when someone says 'militia'...hoping somebody here has more insight into the 'good' aspects of them

[QuietShootr]

Find out what their stated purpose is. My experience is that most of them are like going to the FBI Steak Fry, anyway. Maybe one guy who isn't being paid to be there, the rest are either 1811s or guys working off a bust for someone.

I'd stay away, myself.

[munch520]

I'd stay away, myself.

Copy...that's the general feeling I've always had. A feeling reinforced when I come across some of their videos on youtube

[Just a Jarhead]

I would not join a militia (prior to an event). Mainly due to the disdained view Federal Agencies & Bureaucrats, including Sheriffs have of them, not unlike the same view toward the second amendment by many of these same people. Militia's are not viewed as their friend for the most part. They're believed to be anti-government.

Let's call a spade a spade here. Militiamen love their country, they hate their government. Most militia's primary reason for existence (stated or unstated) is to be the defender of our freedoms and liberties that an internal Tyrant make try to seize one day. Not to protect against an invading army. Not such a far fetched idea if you ask me. The intent is good, the methods dangerously antiquated.

You may want to read this "Leaderless Resistance".
http://www.civiliandefenseforce.com/...esistance.html

Excerpt: "From the point of view of tyrants and would be potentates in the federal bureaucracy and police agencies, nothing is more desirable than that those who oppose them be UNIFIED in their command structure, and that every person who opposes them belong to a pyramid type group. Such groups and organizations are an easy kill. Especially in light of the fact that the Justice (sic) Department promised in 1987 that there would never be another group that opposed them that they did not have at least one informer in. These federal "friends of government" are intelligence agents. They gather information that can be used at the whim of a federal D.A. to prosecute. The line of battle has been drawn. Patriots are required therefore, to make a conscious decision to either aid the government in its illegal spying, by continuing with old methods of organization and resistance, or to make the enemie's job more difficult by implementing effective countermeasures".

[Hawg_Leg]

Seeing as how most if not all Militias are under close scrutiny from some form of gov. agency I would avoid them purely because I want to stay as far under the radar as possible.
I dont want to overthrow my government, I dont want to band together with other white people in anticipation of a race war. If shit hits the fan I want AS FEW PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE knowing that I prepared and have the means / ability to take care of myself and my family.