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    Went to the range today, doesn't anyone else shoot fast?

    My buddy and I went to the range today, his birthday's tomorrow so we decided to have a blast (but do it safely)

    If you live anywhere near Tampa, FL you know there are not very many places you can shoot as fast as you what, however you want, at whatever you want. We had to drive 2 hours to get to the range and it was worth it.

    We brought eleven guns with us and set up 4 targets, each a few feet apart.

    I was surprised, I normally shoot pretty rapidly but I've never had so many ROs and shooters ask me if I had "trigger work" done to that gun, or if I was "bump firing" or flat out "Is that a machine gun?"

    Anyway, no funny story or any particular subject to get everyone all upset about.
    Last edited by Eurodriver; 09-11-11 at 12:44.
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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    Did you hit anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydkristmas View Post
    Did you hit anything?
    You can't rapidly engage targets accurately?
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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    What range was this (name and location)?
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    In fairness, a lot of ROs don't actually shoot all that often (as they're usually busy watching others shoot and/or working the sales floor, if it's a shop/range). I also think their expectations may have been warped by their usual visiting shooters, who are probably coming from a lot of experience at ranges that don't allow rapid fire, and, as a matter of habit, shoot slower than they probably intend to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerinTPA View Post
    What range was this (name and location)?
    Same question. That doesn't look like Hernando, and its not Dade City. Did they not open up one in south Hillsborough County? A 2 hour drive? Maybe they were at Manatee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    You can't rapidly engage targets accurately?
    Not that rapidly. And watching your muzzle bounce around, you can't either. Not to disparage what you are doing, it's fun and I did it when I was a young'un. The fastest I can actually hit with reasonable accuracy is about half your rate of fire or slower depending on the size and distance of the target. To paraphrase another member, "only hits count, you can't miss fast enough to catch up." What's your distance, looks like about 15 yards. Hard to tell from the video.

    I've never taken an AR class and fast shooting of center fire rifles is not allowed on my home range so I don't get to do much of it. I do shoot my 22 LR AR as fast as I want and I can't fire aimed shots nearly that fast. I shoot handguns fast and I cannot hit anything shooting that fast, again not even with a 22. I have also watched a number of Vickers and other's videos and I do not see anyone shooting that fast.

    It kind of depends on what you mean by accuracy. If you mean keeping most of the bullets on a two by two foot piece of cardboard at 15 yards, I might be able to do that.

    The guy in the white shirt can shoot fast, that's a fact.

    Just curious, how old are you guys?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suwannee Tim View Post
    Not that rapidly. And watching your muzzle bounce around, you can't either. Not to disparage what you are doing, it's fun and I've done it. The fastest I can actually hit with reasonable accuracy is about half your rate of fire or slower depending on the size and distance of the target. To paraphrase another member, "only hits count, you can't miss fast enough to catch up." What's your distance, looks like about 15 yards. Hard to tell from the video.

    I've never taken an AR class and fast shooting of center fire rifles is not allowed on my home range so I don't get to do much of it. I do shoot my 22 LR AR as fast as I want and I can't fire aimed shots nearly that fast. I have shot handguns fast and I cannot hit anything shooting that fast, again not even with a 22. I have also watched a number of Vickers and other's videos and I do not see anyone shooting that fast.

    It kind of depends on what you mean by accuracy. If you mean keeping most of the bullets on a two by two foot piece of cardboard at 15 yards, I might be able to do that.

    The guy in the white shirt can shoot fast, that's a fact.
    I understand what you're saying and I hope this doesn't turn into a pissing match when other people chime in, after all we were just having fun and this type of shooting (mag dumps pretty much) doesn't really have its place in any type of training except for maybe an earth overrun with zombies.

    That said, I can easily hit an 10" circle at that distance at that speed, which is what I consider accurate. Does it matter? Not really, when are you ever going to need to dump 30 rounds, save for the previously mentioned zombie apocalypse, into one target? I just like to do it. I like to do hammer pairs and move from target to target (you see me going back and forth with the AK74 in the first video when using the second mag) but with the ACOG at 15 yards moving between 4 targets isn't as easy as a RDS so I tend to shoot more rounds at a time at each target.

    It was Manatee Gun Club. Its $18 to shoot all day, active .mil shoot free but no discounts for anyone else. Membership is around $150 a year then its 1$ to shoot. Aside from one dick range officer, everyone that works and volunteers there is great. I really enjoy going there despite the 90 minute drive. They will let you shoot that fast if you're controllable and safe all day long. I have shot pretty rapidly out to 550 yards there in the standing and no one bothered me. No, I didn't hit anything.

    I don't really see the muzzle bouncing around much.

    We are both in our mid-20s.
    Last edited by Eurodriver; 09-11-11 at 08:40. Reason: 10" circle
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    The old women who run my home range, Gateway Rifle Pistol Club would shit a brick if you even thought about shooting that fast. I have to admit, it makes me nervous, lots of folks who do that are newbies and don't have any muzzle discipline. It's fun but costly. You can burn ten bux worth of ammo in a few seconds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    I understand what you're saying and I hope this doesn't turn into a pissing match when other people chime in, after all we were just having fun.....
    Not from me. I don't begrudge a youngster doing youngster stuff. Hell, I don't even begrudge an old man doing youngster stuff. This from someone who's psychological development was arrested at age fourteen.

    It's a gas to be fourteen, have a great job, adequate money, access to all the pussy I can handle, a house, a car, neat guns, etcetera, etcetera!
    Last edited by Suwannee Tim; 09-11-11 at 08:59.

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