CA - Brown bans OC and passes long-gun registration.

[Belmont31R]

While I believe you Belmont, I am failing to understand how it can not apply to the states. It would seem useless to have the bill of rights if you state could consider it, or sections thereof, invalid. When states pass laws, these can be challanged on constitutional grounds going all the way to SCOTUS. I am failing to understand just how the constitution works on a stste by state level.

Yes the BOR was limitations on the Federal government not the states.


It wasn't until the 14th Amendment was passed that the states were bound by the BOR.


SCOTUS basically overuled the 14th Amendment, and then later courts have had to incorporate sections of each amendment to the states as cases presented themselves.


McDonald vs. Chicago is the case that incorporated the 2nd Amendment to the states.



Read these: http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_bor.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorpo...Bill_of_Rights

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._v._Cruikshank

[BrianS]

Multiple Pro-2A entities are poised for the barrage of lawsuits, even though this battle should have been fought in the 1960's when the Black Panthers marched with slung M1 Carbines on Sacramento. Unspoken racism fueled fear of firearms, and this continues today.

Yes... and many other states adopted laws to deal with situations like that without flatly outlawing open carry of a loaded firearm.

Washington has one like this. I have heard this talked about as a vague racist law that talks around what it was actually intended to prevent (angry black guys in public places with guns). It became law in 1969.

"RCW 9.41.270
Weapons apparently capable of producing bodily harm — Unlawful carrying or handling — Penalty — Exceptions.

(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons..."

Bold emphasis mine. Note Washington still allows open carry of a loaded firearm as long as it is not "in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons."

So in the 60s America was afraid of black people in public with guns. Now we are afraid of everyone in public with guns. How egalitarian of us. Look at the Progress we have made.

[pilotguyo540]

Yes the BOR was limitations on the Federal government not the states.


It wasn't until the 14th Amendment was passed that the states were bound by the BOR.


SCOTUS basically overuled the 14th Amendment, and then later courts have had to incorporate sections of each amendment to the states as cases presented themselves.


McDonald vs. Chicago is the case that incorporated the 2nd Amendment to the states.



Read these: http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_bor.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorpo...Bill_of_Rights

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._v._Cruikshank

You are a gentlemen and a scholar.

I am going to take a nap now.

[Belmont31R]

Also trying to ban people from putting pacifiers in their mouth and wearing gloves with lights on them....




(Video has some scantily clad females so maybe NSFW) http://youtu.be/hm3qQyWXoe0




Notice how dumb the "lawmaker" admits to being. She says she didn't even know what she was trying to legislate, and didn't know you can't ban a certain type of music. 'Oh we found it was uh um unconstitutional to ban a type of music and oh um........'.


I wonder what she would say about these laws that just got signed in. Probably equally as stupid and unaware of what they're constitutionally allowed to regulate.

[ForTehNguyen]

Reading the Stars and Stripes today a CA lawmaker was quoted as saying "Now our citizens won't have to worry about their children being shot by some crazy gun-toting vigilante"

Makes my ****ing blood boil.

http://news.yahoo.com/8-killed-south...234451134.html