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    Top 5 40s&w guns/platforms ever.

    Here is my list:

    1) m&p40- Everyone loves it here so I'll take their word for it since this is a pretty knowledgeable group. i Had an m&pC and was not impressed but I imagine the full size is another animal
    2) Sig P229- formally owned 3. In my experience it was built around the 40 and had the weight to handle it. Too bad sig has supposed issues my best shooting buddy just got a P229 Elite and I have to say it has been awesome for the first 600-800 rnds. Many would agree the 228 in 9mm was even better.
    3) HK USP- the first 40s&w gun right?
    4) HK P30/P2000- own both and P2000sk is also nice.
    5) Glock 22/23- formally owned: 2nd gen G22, 3rd gem G23. The 23 was a beast (like the 19) 13 for carry 15 and some extra grip for HD.

    I also have owned a beretta 96, and a Waltier PPS in 40 and thought it was a nice little powerhouse......i looked in to the walther P99 but decided to pass and always wanted to try the BHP in either 9 or 40.

    Am I missing any?

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    Glock 22 was the first .40SW handgun on the shelves. It beat the S&W 4006 to market (by about a week IIRC).
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    Quote Originally Posted by novaDAK View Post
    Glock 22 was the first .40SW handgun on the shelves. It beat the S&W 4006 to market (by about a week IIRC).
    Your memory serves you right. Glock was the first to market with the .40 Smith and Wesson. Im sure there were some execs at S&W who felt like this when it happened.
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    if i had to go 40 cal it would either be a USP/p30/p2000 or a smith m&p 40...
    those are some of the few pistols truly designed for the cartridge... Seems a lot of 40's are just bored out 9mm's... perhaps that's why 40 gets a rep as a "snappy" unpleasant to shoot round...
    i can't comment on the sig, but given recent sig quality.. i'd have to pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by In2Deep View Post
    Your memory serves you right. Glock was the first to market with the .40 Smith and Wesson. Im sure there were some execs at S&W who felt like this when it happened.
    And I remember the 2nd Gen 22s failed the CHP trails and they adopted the S&W. Glock shortly afterwards came out their redesigned third pin model.

    Quote Originally Posted by skyugo View Post
    if i had to go 40 cal it would either be a USP/p30/p2000 or a smith m&p 40...
    those are some of the few pistols truly designed for the cartridge... Seems a lot of 40's are just bored out 9mm's... perhaps that's why 40 gets a rep as a "snappy" unpleasant to shoot round...
    I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amur View Post
    Here is my list:

    1) m&p40- Everyone loves it here so I'll take their word for it since this is a pretty knowledgeable group. i Had an m&pC and was not impressed but I imagine the full size is another animal
    2) Sig P229- formally owned 3. In my experience it was built around the 40 and had the weight to handle it. Too bad sig has supposed issues my best shooting buddy just got a P229 Elite and I have to say it has been awesome for the first 600-800 rnds. Many would agree the 228 in 9mm was even better.
    3) HK USP- the first 40s&w gun right?
    4) HK P30/P2000- own both and P2000sk is also nice.
    5) Glock 22/23- formally owned: 2nd gen G22, 3rd gem G23. The 23 was a beast (like the 19) 13 for carry 15 and some extra grip for HD.

    I also have owned a beretta 96, and a Waltier PPS in 40 and thought it was a nice little powerhouse......i looked in to the walther P99 but decided to pass and always wanted to try the BHP in either 9 or 40.

    Am I missing any?
    I would say the Gen4 G22/G23 is a better .40 platform than the previous Gen's. On the Gen4 G23 (now has just over 1k rounds on it), recoil has some snap taken out of it, and the new texture/slightly smaller frame really works for me. Being a former owner of a Gen3 G22 and having opportunities to shoot a Gen2 and Gen3 G23 frequently, I do think the Gen4 Glock .40's rachet up Glock .40 performance a bit. I prefer the handling of the Gen4 G23 to the M&P40 that I also own.

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    Having owned the Sig 229 DAK, M&P 40, both gen 3 and 4 of the G22 & 23 i can summarize this way: 229 is or seems heaviest and because of that handles the 40 S&W best in terms of recoil but difficult trigger compared to the others. The M&P; best ergos and handles recoil very well but trigger is odd in its original configuration. Glock; handles recoil well (in the Gen4 iteration) and best trigger of the group.
    Last edited by PLCedeno; 09-20-11 at 18:48.

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    1. M&P40
    2. MP5/40
    3. S&W 4006
    4. Browning Hi-Power
    5. Everything else...

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    I know everyone loves the m&p but the only way I will ever own one is if it's free. My brother and our academy classmate had nothing but problems with them. My brother sents his back to s&w, he shot it and had 1 malfunction out of 100 rounds since getting back. Both have since switched to glocks with zero malfunctions. As a duty or edc I will never trust a m&p. I carry a XD on and off duty but may switch to a gen 4 glock 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomByU View Post
    I know everyone loves the m&p but the only way I will ever own one is if it's free. My brother and our academy classmate had nothing but problems with them. My brother sents his back to s&w, he shot it and had 1 malfunction out of 100 rounds since getting back. Both have since switched to glocks with zero malfunctions. As a duty or edc I will never trust a m&p. I carry a XD on and off duty but may switch to a gen 4 glock 22.
    You have just let an experiment with an N of 1 cause you to loose faith in a platform that has demonstrated a track record of reliability when tested in large numbers.

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