What not to do...

[BrianS]

Him "hitting" or "trying to hit" one of the protestors was probably him trying to leave his property or enter it and them blocking/surrounding the car. He applies gas, they get out of the way.

If these guys are so obsessed with video documenting everything why don't they have that on camera?

[NoveskeFan]

Him "hitting" one of the protestors was probably him trying to leave his property or enter it.

If these guys are so obsessed with video documenting everything why don't they have that on camera?

Thats what I was thinking. I would carry a camera with me and when these jackwads show up, turn the cameras on them. Most of these types get just as pissed as the ones their trying to record. An old LT. did this when we kept having some religious folks disturbing the peace. They were not so happy when we showed up with a camera of our own. They havent been back.

[Irish]

Him "hitting" or "trying to hit" one of the protestors was probably him trying to leave his property or enter it and them blocking/surrounding the car.

That's a big stretch of the imagination. Honestly I could care less about SHARK or their cause but all you have to do is take a couple of minutes to watch a few of their other videos and the guys from the shotgun club are typically the aggressors in any incident I saw posted. They obviously aren't the smartest pigeon shooters in the world either when they know they're being filmed and they threaten and assault the video guys on film.

EDIT: Just because Johnny dipshit has a gun and so do I doesn't automatically mean I take up his cause. He escalated the situation, made threatening statements, assaulted the person with the camera and drew a gun and pointed it at 2 people for no ****ing reason. His ass should be in jail and so should the SHARK wingnut for driving like an asshole.

[BrianS]

That's a big stretch of the imagination.

Not really. Blocking ingress/egress to/from private property is a common demonstration tactic.

And BTW, I'm not saying that guy is right, I'm just saying that blocking a vehicle in with a big threatening crowd and then claiming the moving of the vehicle as some kind of assault is very old hat for the dirty hippie crowd.

[Irish]

Not really. Blocking ingress/egress to/from private property is a common demonstration tactic.

And BTW, I'm not saying that guy is right, I'm just saying that blocking a vehicle in with a big threatening crowd and then claiming the moving of the vehicle as some kind of assault is very old hat for the dirty hippie crowd.

I get what you're saying and you're right. I meant we could sit here and make up hypothetical scenarios that preceded the event all day and there's where the imagination comes in. From what I've seen people who are speeding away and trying to evade the other are typically guilty of something especially when the people chasing aren't really the "aggressive type". Have a good evening.

[BrianS]

I meant we could sit here and make up hypothetical scenarios that preceded the event all day and there's where the imagination comes in.

No, you said it was a big stretch and I pointed out it's not a stretch at all and is in fact common.

Like I said, if this guy tried to run people down with his car why isn't that on tape and why isn't there some dead or critically injured protestors? Why wasn't the guy arrested? Apply some common sense. I personally think if there was anything of substance to the protestors claims the guy WOULD have been arrested. Also, innocent people flee from confrontations in an effort to deescalate the situation all the time, I have fled from road ragers at least 2 times in my life while armed, so your statement in that regard is off base.

You have a good evening too.

[NoveskeFan]

The driver of the red SUV did know he was being tailed, as evident from the video. Something did transpire before the camera went on, but that looks to be hearsay and no evidence of the vehicular assualt has been presented.

[Irish]

Like I said, if this guy tried to run people down with his car why isn't that on tape and why isn't there some dead or critically injured protestors? Why wasn't the guy arrested? Apply some common sense.

How am I supposed to know? Call them and ask them. My Magic 8 Ball isn't working too well.

Also, innocent people flee from confrontations in an effort to deescalate the situation all the time, so your statement in that regard is off base.

Tell that to the cops. And deescalating a situation isn't stopping to threaten people, assault them and pulling out a ****ing gun.

[BrianS]

How am I supposed to know?

Well they have everything else on tape. Do you think it's a little strange they missed this guy rampaging through their peaceful protest with his vehicle?

Tell that to the cops.

Running from the Police is not the same thing as running from somebody threatening you or following you.

And deescalating a situation isn't stopping to threaten people, assault them and pulling out a ****ing gun.

Yeah, I agree he is an idiot. All I am saying is the protestors probably created the situation, and him fleeing doesn't mean they had any reason to be chasing him. And the cops might know it, which might be why he apparently didn't get arrested and the hippies got a ticket, LOL.

If all you want to talk about are his tactics, he shouldn't have stopped unless he went to a Police station, he probably shouldn't even have been speeding unless they threatened him more substantially than just tailing him. I can't really see what happens in the video actually, so IDK who assaulted who there initially. Him pulling out the gun with the holster still stuck on it is full retard, in response to a shove or something minor like that even more so. Turning his back and walking away from a threat significant enough for him to have pulled a gun on a few seconds before (in his opinion) is equally retarded. Also, I am pretty damn sure he would have been arrested after this if it had happened around here. Not sure if him not being arrested was due to east coast attitudes about "street justice" or what, LOL. If you find any follow up on that post it.

[Eurodriver]

Nevermind.