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    I've found the easiest way for me is to use the backside of the pivot pin(opposite of the channel) to depress the spring/detent then as the pin is inserted into the receiver ear hole, rotate the pivot pin which allows the detent to snap home. To avoid the pivot pin from slipping off the detent, just place your thumb on one side of the Pivot pin and the point finger on the other.

    My way, but tool less and quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nationwide View Post
    Insert front pivot spring into receiver.

    Depress with punch/pin past hole.

    Insert smaller diameter pin/punch into hole and capture (hold) spring

    Remove first punch/pin.

    Insert front pivot detent.

    Insert front pivot pin.

    Remove capture punch/pin and apply spring pressure to front pivot pin detent.


    This is fantasy.

    How do you "Depress with punch/pin past hole" when the weep hole is at the end of the pivot pin spring/detent hole?
    At least that's where the weep hole is on a Colt receiver (and every other receiver I ever saw that had one).

    Now where did you learn this technique? The Defensive Edge armorer's course? Have you ever attempted this in real life?

    I'm not trying to be argumentative; just trying to get to the facts, not internet conjecture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawdog-1 View Post
    gotm4, who makes the $5.00 tool you are talking about? Where can I buy it?
    Follow the link to see the tool at Bravo Company, one of this site's sponsors:
    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/ar15-...all%20tool.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASP7 View Post
    This is fantasy.

    How do you "Depress with punch/pin past hole" when the weep hole is at the end of the pivot pin spring/detent hole?
    At least that's where the weep hole is on a Colt receiver (and every other receiver I ever saw that had one.

    Now where did you learn this technique? The Defensive Edge armorer's course? Have you ever attempted this in real life?

    I'm not trying to be argumentative; just trying to get to the facts, not internet conjecture.
    No, I just read about it on the internet like everyone else around here.

    ETA: I just realized you must have ZERO mechanical experience what so ever, except of course, what you do on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nationwide View Post
    No, I just read about it on the internet like everyone else around here.
    You did say-
    Well, that's what I was told in my Defensive Edge armorer's course.
    You never said you actually did it.


    Quote Originally Posted by nationwide View Post
    ETA: I just realized you must have ZERO mechanical experience what so ever, except of course, what you do on the internet.
    Please, educate me...

    Here are the facts.
    The depth of the detent spring hole is 1.00"
    The weep hole is at 0.900"
    The detent spring is 1.100" long.

    How does your "Defensive Edge" technique work again?
    You depress the 1.100" detent spring into the 0.100" recess to capture it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MASP7 View Post

    How does your "Defensive Edge" technique work again?
    You depress the 1.100" detent spring into the 0.100" recess to capture it?
    Pretty basic, isn't it?

    But WAIT, you say... how do you fit 1.100" of spring into 0.100"?!?!?!

    Answer, YOU DON'T NEED TO!!!

    You just need to keep it from putting tension on the detent while you are assembling the front pivot... but, I guess I expected someone who attended not one, but TWO real genuine COLT armorer courses to know this.

    I find the lack of fundamental understanding of things mechanical astounding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nationwide View Post
    But WAIT, you say... how do you fit 1.100" of spring into 0.100"?!?!?!
    Answer, YOU DON'T NEED TO!!!
    You just need to keep it from putting tension on the detent while you are assembling the front pivot...
    Ok, I tried it. (I'm trying to keep an open mind here...) I doesn't work.
    Even after fully compressing the spring, and trapping it through the weep hole, it still projects out the end of the receiver, gaining you nothing.

    You just can't trap enough of the compressed length to make a difference.


    Quote Originally Posted by nationwide View Post
    but, I guess I expected someone who attended not one, but TWO real genuine COLT armorer courses to know this.
    When did I say this? I think you're confused.
    You also apparently have "Colt envy" syndrome.


    Quote Originally Posted by nationwide View Post
    I find the lack of fundamental understanding of things mechanical astounding.
    You obviously have some unresolved "issues".
    Unless you can offer something substantive to this matter, I'm done here.

    Perhaps someone else that is familiar with the weapon system will post their experiences and/or try your technique.

    Honestly, at this point I wouldn’t blame them if they didn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASP7 View Post


    You obviously have some unresolved "issues".
    Unless you can offer something substantive to this matter, I'm done here.

    Perhaps someone else that is familiar with the weapon system will post their experiences and/or try your technique.

    Honestly, at this point I wouldn’t blame them if they didn’t.
    A technical question was asked and aswered.

    You didn't like that answer, so additional guidance was provided. You didn't like that either.

    Would you just like me to tell you that you're right and that be the end of it? Realize that will not affect reality in any way, shape, or form...

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    I've found the easiest way for me is to use the backside of the pivot pin(opposite of the channel) to depress the spring/detent then as the pin is inserted into the receiver ear hole, rotate the pivot pin which allows the detent to snap home. To avoid the pivot pin from slipping off the detent, just place your thumb on one side of the Pivot pin and the point finger on the other.


    That’s the way I have always done them. Simple and quick.

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    Yo guys cant we all just get along?

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