Pistol-Caliber AR: What's the point?

[okie john]

...'cause you guys have got me deeply interested in one, and I need some help rationalizing it to myself. I know I could whack small deer in thick brush with one, but I need more reasons than just that.

Go ahead, push me over the edge.


Okie John

[cabbynate]

Ya know it's kinda like building a $1000.00 Ruger 1022. At least it was for me. Pricey but you get what you pay for. They are fun and somewhat cheap to shoot. Would make a great home defense weapon pending on how you build it. You can shoot them on any pistol range and they are just plain cool. Also a lot cheaper than an HK94 SBR'ed. That's my take on it. YMMV.

[SOWT]

Ya know it's kinda like building a $1000.00 Ruger 1022. At least it was for me. Pricey but you get what you pay for. They are fun and somewhat cheap to shoot. Would make a great home defense weapon pending on how you build it. You can shoot them on any pistol range and they are just plain cool. Also a lot cheaper than an HK94 SBR'ed. That's my take on it. YMMV.

Most of the ranges I shoot at prohibit these weapons. Your experience may differ.

I don't know how practical they are. The only folks I've seen with them couldn't hit the target consistently. I'd rather have a shotgun or full-sized weapon for home defense, but I am sure others will disagree with me.

[Abraxas]

[QUOTbuE=cabbynate;1109055]Ya know it's kinda like building a $1000.00 Ruger 1022. At least it was for me. Pricey but you get what you pay for. They are fun and somewhat cheap to shoot. Would make a great home defense weapon pending on how you build it. You can shoot them on any pistol range and they are just plain cool. Also a lot cheaper than an HK94 SBR'ed. That's my take on it. YMMV.[/QUOTE]

A 5.56 is a much better home defense round than any of the pistol calibers. As for the op, get one because you want it, they are fun.

[fourXfour]

They sure are fun!

[TOrrock]

This comes up on occasion.

There are two advantages to a pistol caliber carbine like a Colt 6450 that I can think of off the top of my head.

1) Low muzzle blast/flash, which makes it easier for many newer female or junior shooters to deal with.

2) If you live in an area that your access to anything other than an indoor range is not convenient, you can at least get some range time indoors.

Also, 9mm tends to be more affordable than 5.56mm.

[cabbynate]

Most of the ranges I shoot at prohibit these weapons. Your experience may differ.

I don't know how practical they are. The only folks I've seen with them couldn't hit the target consistently. I'd rather have a shotgun or full-sized weapon for home defense, but I am sure others will disagree with me.

Wow I would think in Texas the pistol ranges would be fine with them.
Here is Southern Nevada they are.

I like shooting steel plates with mine. Run and gun stuff. It is very accurate and efficient at that.

At the pistol range I usually shoot it at 25 yards were I can keep all my shoots in a 6" cluster and I am no marksman. It's set up not to have much recoil and stays on target with double taps and triple taps..

I agree a shot gun would make a great home defence weapon but I wanna keep my hearing so I have a 20 round mag full of Federal 147 gr 9mm HST's I keep near mine in case the SHTF. I also keep a 11.5 AR-15 ready with 69 gr HPBT Cor bon rounds in it with a mag of SS109's next to that. I will be adding a suppressor to that as well. I can't see many bad guys storming my little house with body armor on but you never no.. With my 9mm I can put 5 rounds on a pie plate at 15 yards moving all day long and still be able to hear when all is said and done.. YMMV..

[pmarc]

Are there any reliable .40 AR?

I'd like to get a pistol caliber AR, since .223/5.56 are not allowed for us civvies in Brazil and 9mm is just a huge a PITA.

So, my best guess would be .40 or .45, but the latter is expensive as hell here.

Not that I'll be putting thousand of rounds per year, because of the stupid antigun regulations here. I mean stupid. You americans complain, but you have no idea... If I could relocate to the US, I could even like in California, their gun laws are totally permisive by brazilian standards.

So... I'd like an AR, if that is ever possible, it would have to be in .40.
Not that I can use that for home defense though.
For HD, I'd have to resort to a 16" .38 (or .44-40) lever action or a 12ga pump.

[okie john]

This is pretty much exactly the kind of rig I'm thinking of getting. What are the details on the build?


Okie John

[C4IGrant]

Lot's of reasons to get one (I have two). The main reason (for me) is cost to shoot it AND many shoot houses do not allow 5.56 in them. So if I wan the feel of an AR, but can't shoot 5.56, this is a great option.



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