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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." - Ayn Rand
    First thing that came to mind when I read the title of this thread.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Kill all commissars.
    "Life is short, but the years are long." - Robert A. Heinlein

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    Whether it's fair or not I think a lot of people get their resentment for the police from all the bullshit, un-American laws that they enforce. We are supposed to be the "freest country in the world" and this is one of the biggest lies the American people swallow. I've spent a lot of time in foreign countries, as have many others here, and can tell you that we are the furthest thing from the freest. Would I want to live anywhere else? Hell no and I love my country but I'm not so naive as to think we're a role model for the world.

    Who has the highest percentage of people in prison in the world for victimless crimes?

    I could go on but I'm starving and I'm sure you know the rest of the story...

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    Sounds more like prosecutors gone wild than cops.

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    Religious zealots breaking into politics over the last 30yrs ??? Thankfully the zealots lost the War against Playboy as I love reading the articles and comics in it

    Alabama's AG was against sex toys due to his apparent moral code...now nobody in Alabama can buy a sex toy online. Thanks AG for protecting us from ourselves and those evil sexual devices sold by the Devil

    Alcohol is legal, and marijuana is illegal...gotta love that shit, Alcohol is killing someone as I type, marijuana never killed a single person yet our prisons and jails are slap full of marijuana users.

    The last thing in the world America enjoys is freedom!!! As mentioned above, American freedom is a manufactured pipe dream!

    Until the libertarians overthrow the puritans, this country will not enjoy true freedom.

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    reminds me of the border agents who shot the drug dealer !
    and yet let the drug dealer testify against them ?


    we are living in some insane times and its going to get worse sadly

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    If you listen to some of these "experts" on Dr Drew or Court TV or Nancy Grace, they will have you thinking having a penis is a "rape tool" or if a man thinks a little girl looks cute in her Pooh PJs that he is a close Pedo. And people are starting to listen to this freaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelebowski View Post
    Sounds more like prosecutors gone wild than cops.
    Maybe I wasn't being clear... My issue isn't with the vast majority of police or their actions. What I meant was things like SWAT teams raiding non-pasteurized milk vendors with guns drawn for milk peddling hippies.

    I could provide a long list of other unconstitutional laws that are enforced every day but I don't think it serves a purpose and I'm pretty sure you know where I'm coming from. I also realize the police don't make the laws and are simply "doing their job" but when they're putting the cuffs on people for victimless, unconstitutional crimes it doesn't jive with me.

    The police are the ones who choose to enforce those laws or not and it's up to their discretion. That's the reason I said people resent them is when they enforce laws, assault people and arrest them for stupid shit that some dickhead politician dreamed up it doesn't sit well with the public. No agenda, not being anti-cop but read that article and tell me who's putting the cuffs on people for stupid shit.

    Overall, more than 40% of nonviolent offenses created or amended during two recent Congresses—the 109th and the 111th, the latter of which ran through last year—had "weak" mens rea requirements at best, according to a study conducted by the conservative Heritage Foundation and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelebowski View Post
    Sounds more like prosecutors gone wild than cops.
    It is my experience that this is the case.
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    Stupid shit like this is what this thread is about in my opinion. http://biggovernment.com/bmccarty/20...lling-bunnies/
    Almost nine months after a Missouri dairy was ordered to stop selling cheese made from raw milk, I share details of another hare-raising story from the Show-Me State: John Dollarhite and his wife Judy of tiny Nixa, Mo., have been told by the USDA that, by Monday, they must pay a fine exceeding $90,000. If they don’t pay that fine, they could face additional fines of almost $4 million. Why? Because they sold more than $500 worth of bunnies — $4,600 worth to be exact — in a single calendar year.
    Shutting down little kid's lemonade stands and fining them all over the country due to not having business licenses comes to mind as well... I could think of a hundred more examples.

    How about the Gibson guitar debacle?
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