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    The government needs a new war on ______ every so often to give a new excuse as to XYZ law has to be passed giving themselves more powers they were never granted in the first place that people will go along with due to sound bites and feel good notions.

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    And the real bitch is there are legitimate uses for the prescription drugs being misused/abused and physicians, ever wary of potential legal and liability concerns, will become even more restrictive in prescribing these medications to patients in need.

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    “Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness. Science fiction It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual's internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable.” ― Theodore Kaczynski

    Illegal drugs are just self-medication, so is gorging on food.

    We keep fighting the symptoms instead of attacking the root problems.
    "Life is short, but the years are long." - Robert A. Heinlein

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    From my experience rotating in a few hospitals, and working in a few pharmacies, people are intentionally overdosing at a rate that surprised me. Some overdose on OTC meds, some on prescription meds and the others on meth or cocaine. Quite a few of those also have alcohol withdrawal. Generally, the OTC and prescription med overdoses are poor attempts at suicide or self harm. Once, I had a woman ask me "Why didn't I die. I took a whole bottle of tylenol last night". Crap like that all too often. It is sad. The ICU where I am rotating now has about 10-20% of it's capacity with some type of overdose.

    ETA, it is a people problem, not a substance problem. People can do this crap with anything.
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    we declared a War on Drugs, and drugs won

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    Its funny but Denmark has the highest rate of personal happiness.



    Of note is that one thing about scandinavian countries is there is a lot of land with very few people. I don't think there system would work here but I did personally find some aspects of European life to be very good and the people are generally much more relaxed and friendly than Americans who tend to be very guarded and not open to dealing with others.



    Long story short my best friend and I went to Ferlach, Austria where they have a gunsmithing school, and Ferlach is like the capital of custom gunsmithing in Europe. Anyways we were walking down the street through the town the day we got there, and there were these two old couples on their front lawn of some shared housing type thing. They asked us where we were from, and at that point we were 18 and had only taken a basic German course in HS. We did our best but had to speak English which they understood. Said we were from California, and looking into the gun making school. They immediately invited us up, and we dug into some wine and greek salad they had going. Even though our age difference was 40-50 years we were there for like 4-5 hours drinking wine and eating food right on these peoples front yard. We had previously been invited to a party that night at a nearby lake by some current students from the school, and by the time we left the old folks place we were already drunk and had like 3 miles to walk to the party. Sounds chincy or whatever but that type of thing would never happen here due to our laws. In the US the old people would have been cited for distributing alcholol, we would have gotten public drunkeness charges, and once in a lifetime memories would be reduced to that time we got busted. FWIW a similar time in the US but we had a couple older guys buy beer, and went into a wooded area. When we came out we got lit up by spotlights from a police car. Parents had to come get us. Luckily I grew up in a libertarian household and my mom was not mad at me but the stupidity of having to come get me. Driver was not drunk or even intoxicated.


    Some of my most fond memories are things that would be illegal here but was stationed in Germany where its legal to go out in the town, and have fun.

    This was like 1 month before I came back to the US for the first "permanent" time in 4 years:







    (and no...no one shot the kid for having a fake/replica gun)

    Open container here is a misdemeanor.....:


    http://s274.photobucket.com/albums/j...Picture023.mp4

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    Quote Originally Posted by armakraut View Post
    “Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness. Science fiction It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual's internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable.” ― Theodore Kaczynski
    Pretty scary when I can relate to the crazy bomb guy.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

    كافر

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    Quote Originally Posted by armakraut View Post
    “Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness. Science fiction It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual's internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable.” ― Theodore Kaczynski

    Illegal drugs are just self-medication, so is gorging on food.

    We keep fighting the symptoms instead of attacking the root problems.
    i never thought i would say it, but "unabomber for the win".
    Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing lunch, Liberty is a well armed sheep contesting the vote.

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    Read the whole manifesto. He goes pretty deep down into the social rabbit hole, makes the naked marxist look like it was written in pidgin with a crayon. Brilliant man, but sanity wasn't in the cards for that guy.

    What I wouldn't give to leave the doors unlocked and walk the streets of my town without running into the filth I'm forced to subsidize.
    "Life is short, but the years are long." - Robert A. Heinlein

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