looking for accurate Ammo, look at Corbon 175gr

[rickp]

Did a bit of training at 1000y range the other day and got a chance to shoot some Corbon 175gr ammo for the first time.
I have to say I was very impressed with it's accuracy. Here are my 600y, 700y and 800y targets.
I shot them out of my AI AW 25" barrel with a can on it.
Shoot N-C targets are 5" targets. I put a few together to see better if I was off them and on paper.
Winds were about 3-5 from about 11. so not too tough to deal with. On average I held about 1/4 mil left. It got me close enough I guess.

On the 800y target I pulled one shot high, otherwise my group was about 3.5".

600y


700y


800y

[C-grunt]

Nice shooting. Got some pictures of the rifle?

[rickp]

Thanks.

Hey here is it
My AI AW with 5x25x56 with a suppressor.

[orkan]

Nice shooting and rifle.

Why do you say 1/4 mil? Did you mean moa? I generally call my holds in tenth mil increments or 1/4 moa increments.

If that wasn't a mistake, would you elaborate about how you break down your reticles?

[rickp]

Nice shooting and rifle.

Why do you say 1/4 mil? Did you mean moa? I generally call my holds in tenth mil increments or 1/4 moa increments.

If that wasn't a mistake, would you elaborate about how you break down your reticles?

Sure,
My reticle is a mil dot reticle, so are my knobs. I don't do anything with MOA on thins system. So when I hold for wind (I dont mess with the knobs) I hold a mil value as per the reticle. In this case, I thought holding 1/4 of a mil would work for the wind.

Did that help answer your question?

Here is a picture of my reticle. it works just like a mil dot but instead od dots I have hash marks.
Between each long hash mark is 1 mils, the smaller lines in the middle is .5 mils. The WHOLE reticle, all it's lines have a measurement value that can be used to range a target.

[orkan]

Thanks.

I'm quite familiar with the p4f reticle, as well as the mil system. It just didn't make any sense to my why you'd talk in quarter's with a system that is primarily talked about in tenths.

If someone is spotting for me, and they say "come right 1/4 mil" I'm going to throw an ammo box at their head. ... however, that is just the language that I'm used to. If it works for you and your shooting buddies, then it works!

[marco.g]

Just a thought but maybe hes holding between the .5 mil and 1 mil hash marks. That would be roughly a quarter of a mil, right?

[rickp]

What???? I'm assuming you still thinking in inches, as in 1/4 of an inch. That's not what I'm doing. I'm still using the mils to hold.
You still have 1 mil and in that 1mil you can hold any amount you want or better said need, regardless of how the mil is broken down. I'm not going to tell someone come left 2 1/2 tenths of a mil, I'm going to say hold quarter mil left. He knows that means half of a half. If I tell him hold 1 mil left, he know to hold a whole mil, etc...etc....
The same thing applies for all ranges. At 800y based on the winds that day, I held about between 1/4 and 1/2 MIL left, not inches.
It's how all qualified snipers I've trained with do it and how I was trained to do it. when using a mil reticle of course.

Morco.g understands it right.

I hope this was more clear.

[orkan]

I understand EXACTLY what you both are saying. It's a difference in language.

When I'm shooting with my group, and around anyone else... corrections in the mil system are called in tenths. Nothing else. It is done this way to simplify the language, which is critically important when under stress.

No one I've ever been around talks in half, quarter, or 3/4 when dealing with mils. It's always "come left zero point two mils" or "come right one point two mils." Like that. It makes your brain key in on the adjustments easier under pressure.

Your way is different, however, that can be overcome with repetition. So like I said... your way isn't WRONG. It's just not standard. (for me or anyone I've shot with)

[infidelprodigy]

That's some good shooting! Glad our ammo works so well for you.