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Thread: B5 is selling SOPMOD stocks for $120 & pics of the Bravo stocks for $58

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    Quote Originally Posted by uwe1 View Post
    For those of you that have tried both extensively, is there a big functional difference between the Emod and the Sophmod? If you prefer one or the other, what is the reason?

    I believe the Emod is longer. Is it heavier?

    Any large differences in the slope of the cheekweld?

    I don't have much facial hair so the cut-outs on the Emod don't matter to me.

    Storage is different, but similar...
    The main reason I have SOPMODs on my 3 carbines is because I feel that they are more robust, not that I have ever broken a Vltor stock or heard of one being broken. I also like the stock to receiver extension fit when using a LMT extension.

    I'll pick a B5 up from Grant when he gets them in to give to my dad for Xmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keller View Post
    Coyote Brown is matched per the Federal Color Standard, the Flat Dark Earth matches the industry standard (read that as matching Magpul).
    Your website is only listing the stocks in black. Are you guys no longer doing other colors?

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    All the colors listed will be produced. The initial focus will be on black, flat dark earth, and multi-cam, with coyote brown and foliage to follow. We will produce limited runs of other colors but that will be down the road.
    Last edited by keller; 11-10-11 at 09:53. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by keller View Post
    All the colors listed will be produced. The initial focus will be on black, flat dark earth, and multi-cam, with coyote brown and foilage to follow. We will produce limited runs of other colors but that will be down the road.
    Sorry, I meant rptactical.com

    Initially they had all the colors and now I see only black.

    http://www.rptactical.com/product-de...-buttstock/791
    Last edited by uwe1; 11-09-11 at 11:16.

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    So doing a small bit of research it looks to me as though LMT is claiming that these are fake, imitations and not legit SOPMOD stocks.

    Quote from LMT site:

    Buyer Beware
    The following notice is being posted for your protection. We have been fielding calls about a SOPMOD buttstock (NSN 1005-01-544-9825) which looks like ours. MFR 58VQ8 IS NOT LMT. Our cage code is 3W544.

    (Figure 1) is a genuine Lewis Machine & Tool SOPMOD Buttstock. Look for the genuine LMT marking on the under side of the release lever. Also note the placement of the Patent Pending (Figure 2) on the genuine Lewis Machine & Tool SOPMOD is on the flat above the release lever under the cheek weld. Not in the center of the flat. (Figure 3)

    The counterfeit stock (Figure 4) has 192000 13020680 MFR 56V08 and the underside of the release lever has no marking. (Figure 5)
    While the first two paragraphs depict LMT only trying to differentiate B5 from themselves, it is the bottom paragraph in which LMT claims these are counterfeit SOPMODs in the sense that LMT must feel they own the design rights to the SOPMOD stock which we all know is not the case as NSWC-Crane designed it, etc.

    Now the patent pending thing has me confused. Who's patent is actually pending? The .gov, LMT, or who? Because you cannot patent something you didn't design. I mean I guess you could, but I also think the government cannot patent something IIRC. So then LMT apply for the patent? If they did, I do not think that will stand up in court.

    LMT: Yes we applied for the patent on this design
    B5: Yes we applied for the patent on this design
    Gov: Yes we designed it and contracted with LMT and B5 to manufacture it and we gave them both resale rights to sell to the public.
    Court: How can either of you lay claim to something you did not have the original idea for?
    LMT: uh... dunno.. cause!
    B5: what they said!

    Court: you are both idiots and it makes sense why the government is dealing with both of you... blah blah blah.

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    I'm now TOO sticking with my VLTOR stocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Bert View Post
    .... it looks to me as though LMT is claiming that these are fake, imitations and not legit SOPMOD stocks.
    I wouldn't even consider buying one until I read detailed reviews comparing it to the LMT version. The LMT stock is still overpriced by at least $40, so assuming quality is the same, a price war is in order.

    ETA: I own 2 LMT SOPMOD stocks.
    Last edited by Dave L.; 11-10-11 at 01:35. Reason: add info
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    Over on TOS, there is a comparison from Neil @ GunGallery.

    I think EvilBert is misreading LMT's info. What they're trying to say is that it's not a LewisMachine&Tool stock.......it's still a SOPMOD. There's no way getting around that.

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    Have a link, my google-fu is weak today. Interested in seeing what the review says.

    I will tell you this, reviews have been very favorable from everyone I have spoken with. Thats from professional door kickers, industry professionals, firearms reps/manufacturers, and joe 6 pack gun owners.

    The reviews will be forthcoming and will hopefully put the naysayers to bed. Grant has received his and he is going to be stocking them for a reason; to me that says something. We at B5 Systems know there is a target on our back, thats fine were the "new" kid on the block but we produce a great quality product at a fair price, a product that we stand behind.

    Im not going to say who but the B5 Systems Sopmod stock has been selected to be used by some of the biggest and best AR manufacturers in the industry. They selected the B5 Systems Sopmod Stock for a reason. We dont just produce a sopmod stock we produce the B5 Systems Sopmod Buttstock. From our 1 piece SS QD swivel mount, color matched hardware, to the fiber reinforced material, we strive to make the best Sopmod stock available.

    As for the legal mumbo jumbo Im not going to go into all the detail on an open forum about the stock but if you guys want to know ask. Feel free to send me a pm or email at mark@b5systems.com. In fact you can call me on my personal cell, 937.632.6309.

    At B5 Systems we are committed to the industry and committed to the end user, whether a firearm enthusiast or military/law enforcement professional.

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