Outfit my Rifle as a Defensive Carbine

[Dionysusigma]

Well, I've got an AR that for all intents and purposes is a solid foundation, but that's about where it ends. I've been watching and reading a lot on modern defensive rifle tactics and suggested equipment, and in its current state it may suffice, but what does the membership of M4C suggest I add/change?

Basically my rifle is more-or-less a DI version of the LWRC M6SL (stock photo):



Exact specs:

- BCM BFH 16" midlength upper, LW profile, A2 FH, fixed front sight
- BCM BCG
- BCM GFH Mod 4
- Daniel Defense A1.5 rear sight, XS same-plane aperture
- MOE midlength handguards
- Mega forged lower
- G&R Tactical LPK w/ MagPul Enhanced trigger guard
- Geissele SSA
- MagPul MOE grip
- MagPul UBR stock with H buffer and USGI spring (although I plan on swapping this out for either an A1 stock or Vltor A5 system with MagPul MOE)
- Surefire G2 with KX4-BKHA on a MOE rail section mounted via Vltor SM-CK mount at the 10:00 foremost position

I also have a MagPul MVG and BAD lever, but I've taken them off as they don't seem to suit me.

No sling. I have no idea where to even start with this, how or where to attach it, etc.

I already have a decent collection of mags that all work reliably and drop free, and a sizable amount of ammo that it likes, so those are covered.

Limitations:
- I don't have access to a work bench or machine shop, so suggesting a rail that involves much more than installing a DD Omega isn't too terribly helpful...

- Money is a little tight right now, but for something like a quality optic I can scape together a little. Probably not enough to cover an Elcan SpectreDR or S&B Short Dot, but maybe an Aimpoint T1 or EOTech XPS.

- I'd rather not SBR. Paying $200 and waiting half a year for permission to do something that shouldn't even be restricted is, to me, dumb.

- If I'm going in completely the wrong direction, I'm not completely opposed to starting anew. I've got another stripped lower that is waiting to be made into something.

So: what do you suggest?

[BCmJUnKie]

1) Sling mounts: Magpul ASAP is easy to install and cheap

2) Sling: Pick one, theyre cheap

3) Light:must have

4) Optic: For a defensive carbine...must have

[Dionysusigma]

K...

[Redmanfms]

Put a good sling on it and acquire a decent number of magazines (say, 20) and then invest whatever money you had slated to "outfitting" in training from some reputable instructors.

You'll learn more about what works (and more importantly, doesn't), what you need, what you want, and what options you prefer in class than you will taking suggestions on gadgetry over the internet. Classes offer you the opportunity to use and see a lot of different stuff without spending a crapton of cash to do so. Training also gives you a solid foundation on which to make decisions about upgrading a weapon intended for defense.


ETA: rob_s, "Buy a Colt 6920, or if you want lightweight get the Colt 6720. You will learn more with one of these guns, requisite ammo and magazines, and a good class than YEARS of reading on the Internet and theorizing and hypothesizing."

[Dionysusigma]

So will any sling do?

And do I just use the loop on the underside of the FSB and the loop on the UBR, or what?

[BCmJUnKie]

So will any sling do?

And do I just use the loop on the underside of the FSB and the loop on the UBR, or what?

No. Check this out.

Have you heard of the ASAP before? Supr easy to install and just a good mount all around. Alittle noisy but it works good

The whole page I linked is about everything you need for your sling setup.

http://store.magpul.com/prod_detail_list/51

[kest_01]

For slings think about what you're going to use it for, on one of my rifles( my primary HD gun ) I have a 1 point(MS2w/ASAP), on my other rifle and on my issue gun I run a VTAC 2 point. I like being able to cinch the sling and have the rifle tight to me and not need to worry about it flopping around when I need to use both hands for something. You most definitely need a light, and you can mount that right to your MOE handguards. RDS is also a must have, I suggest that you try to shoot with a few before you buy, almost everyone here will recommend an aimpoint of some type or another, but I'm a fan of Eotechs personally, never done me wrong. Than like its been said before, take some classes and shoot as much as possible, the more familiar that you become with the function and controls of the rifle, the less likely you are to stumble under sress. Go shoot it and enjoy.

[Preliator]

I would get an Aimpoint T1 and a VCAS sling and call it good. after that just train, shoot and practice (not necessarily in that order). You have better than a basic defense rifle as is. 20 Mags sounds a little overboard to me, for simple home defense 3 or 4 is plenty to practice and shoot with. if you want to take a serious carbine class, double that number and you should still be OK. like I said, just my .02 if I were in your general situation.

[Nick710]

I would get an Aimpoint T1 and a VCAS sling and call it good. after that just train, shoot and practice (not necessarily in that order). You have better than a basic defense rifle as is. 20 Mags sounds a little overboard to me, for simple home defense 3 or 4 is plenty to practice and shoot with. if you want to take a serious carbine class, double that number and you should still be OK. like I said, just my .02 if I were in your general situation.

This is good advice. Only thing I would add is a flashlight.

Then get some good training.

[rob_s]

Why do people keep telling him to buy a light when he has one?
Why do people suggest the ASAP when he has a UBR which does not work with an ASAP and which already has it's own QD cups?

OP:

Get an Aimpoint PRO. $410 from Palmetto State Armory. Comes with a mount.
Get a Mount-n-Slot QD cup that mounts in the MOE. It requires you to remove the handguard and drill a single hole. Should be easy enough for you.
Get the BFG Vickers sling with the sewn-in QD sling swivels. Padded or un-padded, your choice. I prefer the un-padded. Or you can get the Victory sling and add the cups yourself if you are on a budget.

FWIW, I only use slings at matches and classes. My HD gun doesn't have one. This is why I suggest the QD sling solution, plus it makes it easier to store the gun, pack it, clean it, etc. if the sling comes off.