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    The CMMG bargain bin order Finale(sort of) w/ pics

    Well they finally got here After pulling most of my hair out waiting, the 3 CMMG bargain Bin AR's got here today. I was waiting at the FFL (along with John my buddie, 2 of the Ar's were his and one was mine) when the UPS truck arrived.

    It started out on a sour note as I opend the box and took out the packaging material and found the 3 rifles but no magazines. I checked the invoice, it said 5 magazines (I called CMMG and they had forgot to ship them, but said they would be out in todays mail) Then I opened each seperate bag and removed each rifle (John had agreed to let me take my pick) The first thing I noticed of course was the Crisco slathered all over for protection, You can see it in the pics. All 3 Lowers were DPMS and try as I might I couldn't find a single dent, ding or scratch on any of them. The one with the full length heavy barrel felt a little rough in the action. (at least compared to the other 2) so I took one of the other 2 at random. here are pics of all 3












    The last pic is the one I chose

    I took it home and disassembled it. The first thing I noticed was a properly staked carrier key. (let me edit that to, staked carrier key. It doesn't exactly match the pics of the "properly" staked ones) I cleaned all the goop off and re-assembled it. The money I had set aside to buy optics went toward another AR from Coleman Tyler (which should be here tuesday) So I just grabbed a red dot from Wally world and stuck it on to give me something to sight down at the range.

    Surprisingly, my wife wanted to come along too so we went to the range. I fired 3 rounds at 25 yards and made an adjustment to the POS scope and then fired 10 rounds semi quick fire. It needs to be noted that the front sight blocked the sight picture cause the red dot was too low and a best guess was all that was possible when sighting. My only purpose on this range trip was to put a few rounds through it anyway. I was shooting the Frangible Ammo from ammoman and this was also a test of the ammo. My group was surprisingly good, roughly 1.5". I moved the target out to 50 yards and ran some more ammo, then let my wife shoot a little. the target was approx. 12" X 10" and every shot we fired except 1 hit paper. .(yes that includes my wifes shots and she has shot a rifle maybe 5 times in her life)
    Here is my wife at the bench



    I didn't think to keep the target but this group was maybe 6-7" (is that .5 min of bad guy?) inches across and some of the shots were taken off hand and rapid fire. Keep in mind I wasn't shooting for accuracy cause with the scope I had on it I didn't expect any.

    The rifle operated without a hitch, I put 35 rounds through it and called that good till I could put better optics on.
    The bargain Bin rifle I got was Much better than I expected. The trigger was Much better than I thought it would be too.
    I give the CMMG product an A

    but still have to give the customer service and shipping dept a D for forgetting My magazines and for all the other stuff I posted in the threads previous to this one.

    My recommendation is that you order one of the Bargain bin Rifles and just hope you don't need any help from CS. You won't be dissapointed with the end result.

    Ricky

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    How much? I didn't happen to see you say how much they were...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuicideHz View Post
    How much? I didn't happen to see you say how much they were...
    These were the 550$ Bargain bin guns from CMMG

    For the rifle, hand pick, 2 magazines and shipping it was right at 600$

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    What's the tie to DPMS?

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    Thanks for the info. A few more data points, if you don't mind?

    Can you post a pic of the carrier key staking?

    Which extractor spring assembly (part. insert) did you get?

    From the pics, it looks like the receiver extension nut isn't staked to the end plate. Is that correct?

    Are there any markings on your hammer?

    Evidence of moly-b at the barrel nut?

    Is your bolt carrier shrouded, or open? If open, with the rails, or a simple ramp-cut?

    Any markings on your barrel?

    Which buffer did you get?

    Receiver extension mil or commercial? (Tapered at the rear of flat, if you can't mic it or tell?)

    Drain holes at the mag fence? Receiver extension?

    Allen or slot head screw in the pistol grip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TWR View Post
    What's the tie to DPMS?
    No tie, except that you do not get to choose the Make of the Lower when you buy a Bargain bin rifle. I was just pleased that I got a DPMS over something inferior.


    Ricky

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricky_arthur View Post
    No tie, except that you do not get to choose the Make of the Lower when you buy a Bargain bin rifle. I was just pleased that I got a DPMS over something inferior.


    Ricky
    DPMS is as low as you can really go.
    Last edited by Shihan; 11-16-07 at 22:25. Reason: Wording

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    I am going to step out on a limb here and make a guess, please correct me as soon as the information is gathered:

    I assume that since those are DPMS lowers, the receiver extension will be commercial. I am making this ASSumption due to the fact that DPMS ships with commercial receiver extensions. Of course, if CMMG is buying stripped or semi-complete lowers that changes things.

    My quandry- if I place an order for a bargain bin rifle BUT with the request for a lower that usually ships with a mil receiver extension, will it come with one?

    Sure, sure, I could call CMMG with my question, but where's the fun in that?
    Jack Leuba
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    I am going to step out on a limb here and make a guess, please correct me as soon as the information is gathered:

    I assume that since those are DPMS lowers, the receiver extension will be commercial. I am making this ASSumption due to the fact that DPMS ships with commercial receiver extensions. Of course, if CMMG is buying stripped or semi-complete lowers that changes things.

    My quandry- if I place an order for a bargain bin rifle BUT with the request for a lower that usually ships with a mil receiver extension, will it come with one?

    Sure, sure, I could call CMMG with my question, but where's the fun in that?

    I know for a fact that you cannot request any preferences. You get what you get. If you look at the thread on TOS in the EE you see many ??? about various requests and the answer is always... these are pre-packaged for shipping and besides being able to request a hand select you cannot get any modification or preference.

    Yes the reciever extensions are commercial, I think all the above questions can be answered by reminding people that this is a BARGAIN BIN rifle. It's not a colt. For 550$ everything is gonna be about as cheap as you can get. I bought the gun for a truck gun and plinker and for that purpose it should serve me well. If you think you are gonna get a gun that will allow you to join your local S.W.A.T. team in mid raid, you are looking in the wrong direction. I live in an area where I have had a gun in my unlocked truck with the keys in the ignition at night almost since I could drive, almost everybody does. My point being that I don't forsee my safety or life depending on this gun, BUT, I'm confident that when i see a coyote trotting along when I'm driving a dirt road, this gun will go bang.

    The purpose of my post was simply to let people know that IMO the BB rifles are worth 550$, But 1000$-3000$ guns they are not.

    Thank you

    "DPMS is as low as you can really go" OUCH IMO there are worse, but I forget that on this site if it's not Colt, Noveske, LMT its garbage by definition. LOL

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    Ricky-

    Ha, roger!

    Have fun with her.
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