"We the People" NFA petitions

[Iraqgunz]

Out of curiousity. Those that support a repeal, let me ask this. Would you rather that we focus on un-****ing this country to include our financial mess? or would you rather have a bunch of politicians most of whom are stupid when it comes to firearms poking around into the NFA world?

The 1986 FOPA was a good piece of legislation that had great intentions and then it backfired and screwed us. Short of a dictatorship that is run by a gun fanatic, there isn't going to be a repeal of anything.

[viperashes]

Wouldn't repealing these asinine laws that restrict our rights to own this type of weaponry part of "un****ing the country"?

[Iraqgunz]

Read the last two posts. In the bigger scheme of things, it's not a priority right now.

Wouldn't repealing these asinine laws that restrict our rights to own this type of weaponry part of "un****ing the country"?

[Javelin]

Out of curiousity. Those that support a repeal, let me ask this. Would you rather that we focus on un-****ing this country to include our financial mess? or would you rather have a bunch of politicians most of whom are stupid when it comes to firearms poking around into the NFA world?

The 1986 FOPA was a good piece of legislation that had great intentions and then it backfired and screwed us. Short of a dictatorship that is run by a gun fanatic, there isn't going to be a repeal of anything.

NFA. I do not honestly believe that there is enough collective intelligence in Congress, Senate, or the Office of the POTUS to do anything that involves higher level of thought.

[scottryan]

IMO it will simply draw more attention to an area that it isn't needed.

Exactly

[CAR-AR-M16]

I absolutely agree that it should be repealed. I don't see the Federal Government doing that though, especially because our community is so small compared to the community that wants ALL guns gone. The entire reason NFA is now null and void and is no longer the issue it was when the laws were created.

NOT signing this petition isn't doing anything to stop it from being a public spectacle, so, I signed it because every signature helps draw notice to an issue that is known regardless, and not signing it isn't going to make it any less visible. If our Government wants to try to take away our right to own NFA weapons, I can almost guarantee that it will see a Supreme Court hearing, which, is maybe what this country needs to see to realize that these laws are unconstitutional.

This is the same Supreme Court that only ruled 5-4 in the Heller case that you have a right to own a handgun. If this court has to rule on machineguns it will NOT turn out in our favor.

[Javelin]

Out of curiousity. Those that support a repeal, let me ask this. Would you rather that we focus on un-****ing this country to include our financial mess? or would you rather have a bunch of politicians most of whom are stupid when it comes to firearms poking around into the NFA world?

The 1986 FOPA was a good piece of legislation that had great intentions and then it backfired and screwed us. Short of a dictatorship that is run by a gun fanatic, there isn't going to be a repeal of anything.

However Iraqgunz I do agree with you as to the possible destruction of our civil liberties. Good reading for those interested in the "Firearm Owner's Protection Act of 1986" that the NRA endorsed and Reagan signed.

As debate for FOPA was in its final stages in the House before moving on to the Senate, Rep. William J. Hughes (D-N.J.) proposed several amendments including House Amendment 777 to H.R. 4332 [4] that would ban a civilian from ownership or transfer rights of any fully automatic weapon which was not registered as of May 19, 1986. The amendment also held that any such weapon manufactured and registered before the May 19 cutoff date could still be legally owned and transferred by civilians.
In the morning hours of April 10, 1986, the House held recorded votes on three amendments to FOPA in Record Vote No's 72, 73, and 74. Recorded Vote 72 was on H.AMDT. 776, an amendment to H.AMDT 770 involving the interstate sale of handguns; while Recorded Vote 74 was on H.AMDT 770, involving primarily the easing of interstate sales and the safe passage provision. Recorded Vote 74 was the controversial Hughes Amendment that called for the banning of machine guns. Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.), at the time presiding as Chairman over the proceedings, claimed that the "amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended, was agreed to." However, after the voice vote on the Hughes Amendment, Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) ignored a plea to take a recorded vote and moved on to Recorded Vote 74 where the Hughes Amendment failed.[5][6] The bill, H.R. 4332, as a whole passed in Record Vote No: 75 on a motion to recommit. Despite the controversial amendment, the Senate, in S.B. 49, adopted H.R. 4332 as an amendment to the final bill. The bill was subsequently passed and signed on May 19, 1986 by President Ronald Reagan to become Public Law 99-308, the Firearms Owners' Protection Act.

[scottryan]

I wonder how many people that sign these petitions actually own an NFA firearm.

[viperashes]

I'll go one step further and wonder how many of these people actually know what the hell they're actually voting for, or for that matter, give a shit what the citizens they represent want.

[Iraqgunz]

I believe that the NRA was pissed about the last minute stuff that went down and how Rangle ****ed us.

In any case, if no one thinks that couldn't happen again then I have a condo I'd like to sell you in Baghdad on the river.

However Iraqgunz I do agree with you as to the possible destruction of our civil liberties. Good reading for those interested in the "Firearm Owner's Protection Act of 1986" that the NRA endorsed and Reagan signed.