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    Is this Ok?

    I currently have two complete ARs. Both are registered SBRs. I have lots of spare lower parts,but I do NOT have any additional uppers other than what is attached to the registered lowers.

    This last week I was in a local gun shop and they had a smokin' deal on a new AR lower. I've been wanting to build another AR (standard not SBR). So I bought it.

    I have lots of spare lower parts, enough to assemble a complete lower. I don't have the $ right now to purchase a complete upper. I'm waiting till around February or so for that.

    Today as I was putting in the FCG to ensure that the lower specs were correct and a thought occured to me. Could I be in any trouble for having a complete lower with no upper, while having two complete AR SBRs? My understanding from the threads I searched was that it could ONLY be an issue if you had complete lowers (with no upper) and "extra" or multiple SBR uppers for your registered SBR (which I do not).

    I'm a law abiding guy and I have no intention of breaking the law. This lower will be mated with a 16" barreled upper when I have the dough down the road. Till then it will sit, upper-less, in my safe. In the mean time, I just want to make sure that I'm in compliance with the law. If it is not, I'll immediatley sell it or whatever to be sure that I'm in compliance.

    Thanks for your input.

    *If I did a bad job searching, or this isn't the place for this post, I apologize, and I'll remove it.
    Last edited by No Bananas; 10-23-11 at 10:52.
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    At the macro scale, don't start nothin' and there won't be nothin'. Meaning, don't do anything stupid to get your house searched and no one will ever know or care.

    At the micro level, I wouldn't worry about it because you have a record of following the law and getting approved for stamps. All your SBR gear is legal. Having a virgin rifle lower in the same house shouldn't cause any issues.

    If you had no stamps, a complete SBR upper and a complete lower, you could be in hot water.

    I am not a lawyer, and this is the internet. Plan accordingly.

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    Ask yourself the following;

    1. Are you selling drugs from your home?

    2. Are you selling weapons to the cartels?

    3. Are you driving around the neighborhood looking for stray kids?

    4. Are you sending emails to the local BATF office telling them to "look at this biatch!".

    5. Are you posting about it on an open internet forum?

    If not then I don't see how this is going to be an issue unless you DRAW attention to yourself and/or are otherwise breaking the law.



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    You have nothing to worry about so long as you have the two SBRs with uppers attached. Having a legal reason to possess sub-16 inch uppers (ie two SBRs) makes this scenario legal. I would buy a 16 inch upper for the title-1 lower if you plan to buy any more sub-16 inch uppers for your SBR.
    Last edited by JoshNC; 10-23-11 at 11:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    4. Are you sending emails to the local BATF office telling them to "look at this biatch!".
    Wait.... We're not supposed to do this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshNC View Post
    You have nothing to worry about so long as you have the two SBRs with uppers attached. Having a legal reason to possess sub-16 inch uppers (ie two SBRs) makes this scenario legal. I would buy a 16 inch upper for the title-1 lower if you plan to buy any more sub-16 inch uppers for your SBR.
    You can purchase and own as many uppers in any length that you want. There is nothing illegal about having a shorty upper, regardless of how many complete rifles, stripped lowers, complete lowers, etc, that you have. Even if you have zero registered SBR's.

    There is a court case that proves this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Ask yourself the following;

    5. Are you posting about it on an open internet forum?

    If not then I don't see how this is going to be an issue unless you DRAW attention to yourself and/or are otherwise breaking the law.

    I see what you did there...

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    The ATF is busy arming the Cartels for Ali Bama. Don't worry about those jokers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinsonr View Post
    You can purchase and own as many uppers in any length that you want. There is nothing illegal about having a shorty upper, regardless of how many complete rifles, stripped lowers, complete lowers, etc, that you have. Even if you have zero registered SBR's.

    There is a court case that proves this...
    I'm interested in more detail on this.
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