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    proper staking also plays a critical part in keeping the head of the cap screw inside the key when the cap screw breaks. If you've ever had to use a long punch through the cloverleaf to dislodge a broken cap screw head you'll appreciate decent stakes.

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    Damned StakeLovers.

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    Counterstaking the screws is a big help. A Starrett automatic centerpunch is the cat's ass for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsilvers View Post
    Has anyone ever worn out a gas key and wanted to replace it? I have so far never wanted to remove one.
    I've seen them break off, bend, and get deformed when a gas tube came out. I've never seen one wear out from use which didn't have some additional problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Damned StakeLovers.

    Is anyone else staring at this wondering what they were trying to accomplish?
    Maybe make it look like a Predator was targeting it?
    You dig your grave with your fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwperry View Post
    Is anyone else staring at this wondering what they were trying to accomplish?
    Maybe make it look like a Predator was targeting it?
    Iraqgunz said this was an approved alternate staking method. This is one of my colts that had the bolt snap on me. The guy lapped it, sealed it, bolted it, and staked it.

    It's a different, but effective method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Iraqgunz said this was an approved alternate staking method. This is one of my colts that had the bolt snap on me. The guy lapped it, sealed it, bolted it, and staked it.

    It's a different, but effective method.
    I learned something new today..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwperry View Post
    I learned something new today..
    If you look at the picture closely, you can see the metal that was displaced into the carrier key heads, specifically in stake 1, 3, and 4 if you were reading the stakes like a book. It is very easy to do with an auto punch versus holding the carrier on the side with one hand, holding a punch with another hand, and swinging a hammer all at the same time. When I get a new carrier, even if it is from BCM or DD, I take a hammer and screw driver to the existing MOACKS stakes, and then counter punch the heads in two places 90 degrees to either existing stakes on each key stake. The thing is never coming off unless the key snaps off with both bolt heads, and then I will use a dremel and one of those broken bolt head removing tools to try to get the rest of the bolt out. If not, a stripped auto carrier is on a short list to replace the spare carrier that is in my gun closet...

    You do have a complete spare carrier on hand at all times right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwperry View Post
    Is anyone else staring at this wondering what they were trying to accomplish?
    Maybe make it look like a Predator was targeting it?
    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Iraqgunz said this was an approved alternate staking method. This is one of my colts that had the bolt snap on me. The guy lapped it, sealed it, bolted it, and staked it.

    It's a different, but effective method.
    It's called field staking

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    Correct. Because the military (AFAIK) has not yet suffered the wisdom of the MOACKS. So if a key needs to be replaced, you do it as described there.

    I did several dozen of our Bushies like that until our MOACKS arrived.

    Quote Originally Posted by GTifosi View Post
    It's called field staking



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