A lot of these rounds would be nice if I had time to reload. Or if I could even find them.
A lot of these rounds would be nice if I had time to reload. Or if I could even find them.
Huge fan of the 50gr TSX load. I fired some into milk-jugs. It penetrated about the same as a 9mm 124gr GDHP through water/milk-jugs.
People have shot many creatures with the X bullets over time and love them.
Here is picture>
The 3 slugs I recovered (inches):
1: 0.512 x 0.306 = 0.409 avg
2: 0.511 x 0.344 = 0.4275 avg
3: 0.518 x 0.295 = 0.4065 avg
Since it's in the LE .308 thread this might have been overlooked;
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19878
but Doc posted pictures of gel test shots through AK mags by various rounds.
The 77gr OTM ain't looking so good in that pic. Just sayin.
"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms..."
- Richard Henry Lee, 1788
6" of penetration directly into the heart/lungs with that kind of frag pattern will readily drop a dude. I'm not chest thumping here, but I've seen me do it.
The projectile will get through and cause significant damage. Of course, it can be improved upon, and it isn't what I would consider optimal, which is why I recommended going with one of the recommended loads in DocGKR's thread, in which he makes it pretty clear that the best balance of performance from a 5.56 gun is one of the barrier blind rounds.
Never BTDT, but from a medical prospective, even my most obese patients don't have more than 1-2" of fat over the sternum (I'm talking 500#+ people), and if you want to count pecs (most obese people don't have much pec anyway), you MIGHT! encounter 3" or so, but it won't be dense.
The major unknown is the sternum/ribs.
Some people have a serious sternum, some don't.
I will NOT! volunteer to be shot while wearing a chest-rig with AK mags in it with 77gr OTM even if someone promises to aim for a mag. 12-14" of penetration is to account for marginal hits/hits from less than ideal angles. You don't need 12-14" of penetration on a sternal front-on shot to mess up darn near everything.
Last edited by WS6; 11-02-11 at 01:05.
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