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Thanks Pete for a breath of fresh air
It is nice to read an open minded opinion instead of this old time crap.
I posted my last opinion and I was told I just don't get it, well I still don't. I enjoy the piston rifles that I have.
IRAQGUNZ, your being open minded about a piston gun surprises the hell out of me after all the crap I've read from you about the subject, maybe there's hope for some of you.
Ok guys let it fly
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Colt is having better ideas than they have had in many years. Some of them will be flops... others, like the SOCOM M4s, were smart.
I read a few of the posts on page 1 and just wanted to add my deuce.
At the end of the day, Colt is a business that needs to sustain itself. Regardless of how much we think they make off of government contracts, or how much margin they make off each rifle on the civilian market, it is still their business at the end of the day that needs to be sustained. If they want to attempt to move into a market for civilians, be it mall ninja, tacticool plinker, or internet operator, they have to do what is best to sustain their company's growth financially.
You can be the most purist, best, top of the your game company. If you are as much of an entrepreneur and innovator as you were when your company first started, you are going to be intelligent enough to go cater to as wide of a market as you can.
Is there going to be compromises? Who knows. One would hope not, but if it's not for you, then it's not for you. Colt has to make the best decision they can to keep their company growing. Otherwise they will just be "another AR" company, even if most consider them the end all be all.
I do prefer the DI on the Armalite as that was the way it was invented,but one thing I do enjoy pointing out to people:
Next to the M16/M4/AR there has been,I think if I read right,three DI guns put out in mass the Ljungman,MAS 49/56,and the Armalite;of those the MAS is the only one next to the Armalite that's seen any use of note.
The piston guns are the most used and designed along with a few recoil operated ones...so really the DI system isn't that widespread.
On topic:I suppose if someone is going to get a piston AR right Colt would be one.
"That which is dead can eternal lie,and with strange aeons even death may die"~Lovecraft
It's do or die for Colt right now. They lost the Army M4 contract, so they are scrambling to fill the backlog with US commercial sales and international military/LE sales.
That's why you see Colt orienting more towards the commercial market now. I mentioned necessity as one reason. The other is that they just ditched a very anti-gun shareholder (Blackstone) who, since 2003, didn't want Colt (Defense) to sell blasters to the civilian market. With Colt Defense and Colt's Manufacturing back together - all the friction and the dysfunctional commercial distribution arrangements between two previously separate companies might go away, which is good for us.
Cut Colt some slack here. Late to the game, but better than never.
Both the legacy Colt Defense and Colt's manufacturing companies (now under one roof again) need to have some new product. The 1911 design is over 100 years old. The Eugene stoner model dates back to 1957. Right now Colt can't sell rifles to civilians in NY, CT, and soon MD and maybe CA. After Colt fires a few accountants, maybe they can hire a few engineers and pump out some new stuff that isn't just a variation on a theme. Right now Colt has more accountants than engineers. S&W is hitting it out of the park with a single stack concealable pistol (the shield) and it sounds Glock isn't too far behind. Ruger is probably selling more LCP's and LCR's in a month than the rifle units Colt makes in a year. Colt shitcanned its high-quality AK project after Sandy Hook. So, where's Colt?
In the meantime, it's interesting that the CEO said Colt was looking at possibly bringing back some "older" product - would you guys buy a Hartford Horsey retro A1?
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If you like Piston guns, good for you. I do as well. It is called the HK 416.
With that said, I have zero need for one. Why? Because I don't shoot a FA SBR with a suppressor on it (which is really the only reason to get into QUALITY piston AR's).
A DI gun will cover all your bases, be less money, softer shooting, more accurate, lighter, easier to repair and allow you to use any aftermarket rail you want.
C4
I am sworn to secrecy but know how many ARs Colt makes every month. It is not in any way insignificant.
ETA: The only piston gun I'm really interested in is the PWS. I like the recoil impulse of long stroke pistons.
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