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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Yeah. If I want a MOE Hand Guard, I can plop the $25 down myself.

    And going after the PisTard market is completely discouraging. Shit! I need a drink.
    While not a piston fan, I don't have a problem with a company offering one along with their DI guns.

    With that said, if I was going to buy a piston gun (in an AR platform), it would be a Colt.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SperlingPE View Post
    My original comments about Colt's piston gun offering and the SCW were just opening comments.

    My real question is about the holster/sling for the SCW.

    Any information?
    The bickering and comments about piston guns and Colt lowering there standards can be saved for another thread.
    I was hoping to get some information, not start a name calling match.
    There is zero info on the sling at this point.



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    Colt is a company. The fact that they are targeting market segments that they previously haven't just means that they are doing what companies do - pursue profit.

    $1k from one guy as opposed to the next, isn't important.

    If Colt begins to cut corners, or use junk, or mislead people into buying their stuff; then Colt will lose me as a loyal customer.

    If they continue to produce genuinely good and robust products, and begin to offer aftermarket furniture, new designs like the SCW and piston rifle into their product line; then I'd say Colt that's fine.

    I think that a little ingenuity, creativity and marketing is a good thing.

    But I hear what you're saying, they're going to have to be careful about how they manage their company image.

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    Oh, woops. Don't want to derail, I'll take it somewhere else.

    Don't know anything about the sling either.

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    I bought a piston gun, PWS, because I wanted to play with one and see for myself what the gripes/benefits could be. I wouldn't buy a Colt piston (don't need one is all) but I would love to hear about someone wringing one out.

    It is the litany of "anyone who makes a piston is going for the retard market" commentary that is beneath you. Or maybe, it's not. For EVERYTHING in human history that has ever been improved upon, there has ALWAYS been some know-it-all aping the old line, "solution in search of a problem". Probably the most overused expression of all time.

    There is only one way to find out if something can be improved upon and guess what? It is not by arguing about it on the internet. I hope a bunch of manufacturers and end users make and use all manner of piston designs and through trial, error, and experience figure out if they are worth the effort. My bet is that once a commonality of design is decided upon, they will be a very good option. But, just like your opinion, its worth exactly what you paid for it, zero.

    Back to the original post. I don't know but I certainly would like to hear/see more about this development. Any interesting links would be appreciated, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    It's not YET the end of the road for Colt. It's just scary to see them going after the idiot market.

    When you build a piston gun, you are FLAT OUT chasing the Retard market.
    I'll drink to that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    It's not YET the end of the road for Colt. It's just scary to see them going after the idiot market.

    When you build a piston gun, you are FLAT OUT chasing the Retard market.
    Colt seems to swing from one extreme to the other. For years they didn't make guns that people wanted to buy and were overly picky about who they sold guns to, and now they are going to sell piston guns to Bubba. Hopefully they don't go full retard with their marketing like SIG.


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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    It's not YET the end of the road for Colt. It's just scary to see them going after the idiot market.

    When you build a piston gun, you are FLAT OUT chasing the Retard market.
    Why? Are you saying that the HK416 or the LMT MRP Piston is for, as you put it, "the retard market"? I'm not saying the Colt is a great gun. I don't really know because I've never shot one and I don't know anyone that has. It might be the worst AR type rifle ever or it might be the piston rifle that solves every problem or it might be neither.

    I like the Magpul loaded 6920. If I wanted a rifle with the Magpul furniture on it, I would consider this rifle. Like most people, I want to get my rifle complete the way I want it if at all possible.

    I think Colt is trying to offer things that the public might want. It makes good business sense to me and it's not hurting the product; in fact, in some ways I think it enhances it. Also, as I recall, weren't many on this site as well as other sites complaining about how Colt doesn't pay attention to the civilian market. Apparently they are now.

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    I think that the SCW is a smart idea, assuming that it is built properly. My guess is that Colt believes the weapon works. I hope that they do make it widely available.

    If I make it to SHOT in January I will be taking a very close look at it, assuming it's available.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SperlingPE View Post
    Internet info has this being released some time in the future.
    The Colt piston gun is showing up on distibutor's web sites.
    Both of the above are great.

    I was reading at the LE web page of colt.com about the SCW. the information states that there will be a custom sling/holster system (patent pending).

    Does anyone have information on this?
    The SCW is a prop gun, and if Colt is smart, it will NEVER be released.

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    Why? Are you saying that the HK416 or the LMT MRP Piston is for, as you put it, "the retard market"? I'm not saying the Colt is a great gun. I don't really know because I've never shot one and I don't know anyone that has. It might be the worst AR type rifle ever or it might be the piston rifle that solves every problem or it might be neither.

    I like the Magpul loaded 6920. If I wanted a rifle with the Magpul furniture on it, I would consider this rifle. Like most people, I want to get my rifle complete the way I want it if at all possible.

    I think Colt is trying to offer things that the public might want. It makes good business sense to me and it's not hurting the product; in fact, in some ways I think it enhances it. Also, as I recall, weren't many on this site as well as other sites complaining about how Colt doesn't pay attention to the civilian market. Apparently they are now.
    He may not be saying it but I will:

    ALL of the retrofit piston guns are for the FULL retard market...
    Last edited by MarkG; 10-27-11 at 18:01.

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