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    Quote Originally Posted by northern1 View Post
    AK74 mags = polymer or polymer type body w/ steel feed lips

    These Lancer mags = polymer body w/ steel feed lips.

    That's all I was getting at. Time will tell how it pans out.
    Lancers have been around a while, these are their third revision each gettig better and better.

    As it stands i feel the AWM are the best magazine for the AR-15 platform and any that use this type of magazine.

    The new wrap around feed lip fix the #1 issue with polymer mags.

    1. They allow use of polymer that offers better spingability(no sure for technical term) this usually requires weaker polymer which can break at the feedlips.

    2. Makes it impossible to crack the spine, that is a huge benefit.

    3. Feedlips can longer be broken either.

    4. The steel feedlips allow the use of clear polymers, something no other magazine maker has pulled off(aside from the AUG mags)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LancerSystems View Post
    There are a number of benefits over other polymer and aluminum magazines.

    1 - Steel feed lips - The steel feed lips won't bend or break. This has been the hardest part to master, and I think we have it fixed now. This is also what is causing the issues with the 1st round. As the round enters the feed ramp it's forced up into the chamber and as the round goes up the feed ramp the feed lip will bend slightly. The steel feed lips won't bend (deform or break either) so the round drags along the edge of the feed lip. Our early feed lips had a sharp shear egde from the stamping operation and we used a finish operation to remove the burrs and the shear edge. The round would drag on this edge and cause the 1st round stall. This process was not sufficient to remove the edge everytime so we had to modified the tooling to process out the shear edge. The edge is processed smooth now, so less force is required to load the 1st round.

    2 - Steel feed lips allow us to use translucent and low glass content polymer, which are more robust and impact resistant than other polymer magazines.

    3 - Translucent body - you know the status of the magazine instantly.

    4 - Lightweight - weights slightly more than an aluminum magazine.
    Your candor and detailed explanation is refreshing and much appreciated. I do not own any of your mags, but I respect that you are genuinely trying to make a better mousetrap and not just another mousetrap. I will add some of your mags to my wish list. Keep perfecting as it sounds like you are on to something
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    4. The steel feedlips allow the use of clear polymers, something no other magazine maker has pulled off(aside from the AUG mags)
    HK G36 mags, HK417 mags, FB Radom Beryl mags

    All of them ale all polymer (no steel inserts or feed lips), clear (translucent) magazines.

    BTW My Lancer AWM mags are still working fine so I probably will sell my stock of E-Mags and get more Lancers.
    Last edited by montrala; 07-18-12 at 06:40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montrala View Post
    HK G36 mags, HK417 mags, FB Radom Beryl mags

    All of them ale all polymer (no steel inserts or feed lips), clear (translucent) magazines.

    BTW My Lancer AWM mags are still working fine so I probably will sell my stock of E-Mags and get more Lancers.
    And none of them work in AR-15's either.

    My comment was about AR-15 magazines. Or other guns using the same type mag well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    2. Makes it impossible to crack the spine, that is a huge benefit.
    Somewhere, somebody is bellowing "Challenge....ACCEPTED!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    And none of them work in AR-15's either.

    My comment was about AR-15 magazines. Or other guns using the same type mag well.

    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    4. The steel feedlips allow the use of clear polymers, something no other magazine maker has pulled off(aside from the AUG mags)


    You mentioned Steyr AUG mags, not "AR15 mags". Those are not AR15 mags and do not use AR15 magwell. So I took your remark as general one.
    Last edited by montrala; 07-18-12 at 09:25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montrala View Post
    You mentioned Steyr AUG mags, not "AR15 mags". Those are not AR15 mags and do not use AR15 magwell. So I took your remark as general one.
    I gotcha, funny thing is the only time ive ever personally seen aug mags they were running in an AR-15 so I honestly thought they worked lol. They didnt work well but they did work.

    To JS.....challenge accepted!!!! Ill freeze one of my lancers tonight and see what happens, i can spare 1 to abusing it and trying to break it.
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    I have four of these mags myself, and they seemed to be a bit more resistant to insertion on a closed bolt; but now with time (guessing around 500 rounds through each) that "issue" doesn't seem to be apparent now.

    I personally don't have this problem but I wonder if for those with tight magwells if the steel makes inserting/removal easier?

    Personally I like them a lot, I will certainly be getting more down the road.

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    I have only three Lancers and have been trying to find more-- they seem to be sold out most places.

    I want more because these three have worked very well and have become my best mags for .300 Whisper / Blackout. To me the translucence is not gimmick, it's truly beneficial to be able to do a rough round count it half a sec.

    One thing I did specifically notice was that bolt-close insertion of a 20 rounder loaded to 20, works. Have not tried 30 in a 30.

    So for me they've been "everything to gain and nothing to lose", other than availability, and I have not exactly turned over every stone-- just causally searching as I think of it. Frankly I'm very surprised to learn of any problems with them, but then I am probably not using them as much and as hard as some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    To JS.....challenge accepted!!!! Ill freeze one of my lancers tonight
    Jokes only, man! They are, as noted, seemingly a bit scarce, so don't potentially gank one on my account. I'm a Recovering Catholic, so I'm not prone to feel guilty for crap I didn't do, despite Sister Mary Hulk Hogan's best efforts, but I'd feel a twinge over somebody maybe busting an otherwise-good mag over a piece of whimsy...

    I've got 2 of them, smoke/clear, but I got them for the specific reason that students can see the day-glo orange dummy rounds that are all I ever put in them.

    I did shoot with them, about 300 rounds each, just on GP; nothing out of the ordinary to note other than the differences/improvements since their previous version, already discussed.

    However, I have to REALLY shove on these things to get them to lock on a closed bolt on all my guns, none of which have insert/eject problems with any of my other mags from 4 vendors.....somewhat noteworthy because that's with only 10 rounds in each L5 mag, and after they've been decently used "for real." That's a bit jacked, but since 1) they're now relegated to and permanently marked for inert-only, and 2) the only two brands of mags I really note any more are Work Inc. and Don't Work Ltd. (every mag manufacturer holds stock in each of those two...), I can't bring myself to care if these elicit an "Umph..." from me on a closed bolt.
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