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Thread: What's the verdict on "Hiperfire" triggers?

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    I would be interested in trying this, on someone else's rifle. I fail to see an increase in utility that justifies the increased risk. Terry compares it to a double set trigger. I have used double set triggers which I didn't like and owned single set triggers which I swapped out for conventional triggers. I dislike and prefer not to use a sucky trigger. I love a fine trigger. I have mastered everything in between. I have no need for gimmicks. Especially gimmicks that could very well cause an accidental discharge.

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    Ya, this is a negligent discharge/lawsuit waiting to happen.

    I really can't understand how no one in the design, production and marketing of said product didn't raise concerns. I'm sure they must have lawyers on retainer, are they real estate lawyers with NO firearms experience

    This is just bad all over.

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    Quick, someone get one of those triggers and fit it up to a receiver with a BAD 45 degree selector lever.

    Retain a lawyer first as I gaurentee you'll have grounds for a lawsuit if you follow the trigger instructions to the letter.

    Seriously though, half rotate the selector to take up slack?
    How stupid does one have to be to even consider that as 'a good idea'?

    Still, thier quality of video presentation lends some serious credence to the concept. I mean dude even takes the time to look over at the stuff on the left in green screen like its really there or something. Even the local weatherman, excuse me 'meteorologist' doesn't get that much into it.

    I bet they sell 1000 of them just on that presentation alone...

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    No one has this trigger yet and it's being bashed because of the name? Next folks will be posting that Bushmasters are better than Colts because Coiled Snake rollmarks are cool and Prancing Ponies are gay.

    The "safety trick" is only to remove some of the slack in the trigger before taking the shot. It doesn't even reduce pull weight. It's only to be used when the shooter has the time to do this and wants a more precise break, not during high stress shooting situations. He makes that clear. If you are using a 45 degree throw safety and try this, you deserve what you get. If you still think advocating the "safety trick" is a bad idea, contact the company and express your views.

    This trigger is an interesting design and if you'd take the time to study it's operation, you'll see why. Does it work as advertised? I don't know. I have never tried it. The trigger won't be available until December 2011.

    Considering the direction this thread has drifted, it no longer belongs in the AR Technical Discussion forum and should be moved- like to TOS
    Last edited by MistWolf; 11-10-11 at 17:14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    No one has this trigger yet and it's being bashed because of the name? Next folks will be posting that Bushmasters are better than Colts because Coiled Snake rollmarks are cool and Prancing Ponies are gay.

    The "safety trick" is only to remove some of the slack in the trigger before taking the shot. It doesn't even reduce pull weight. It's only to be used when the shooter has the time to do this and wants a more precise break, not during high stress shooting situations. He makes that clear. If you are using a 45 degree throw safety and try this, you deserve what you get. If you still think advocating the "safety trick" is a bad idea, contact the company and express your views.

    This trigger is an interesting design and if you'd take the time to study it's operation, you'll see why. Does it work as advertised? I don't know. I have never tried it. The trigger won't be available until December 2011.

    Considering the direction this thread has drifted, it no longer belongs in the AR Technical Discussion forum and should be moved- like to TOS
    I watched the opening vid on their site, I can understand why they designed it the way they did.

    However you can achieve the same effect of taking load off of the sear surfaces by relocating the sear surfaces like Geissele did with their SSA and SD series triggers. That change doesn't require the use of extra springs, and also allows for greater sear engagement area resulting in a trigger less sensitive to contamination and pin hole tolerances.

    From the getgo the design appears more complicated than necessary to achieve the characteristics the guy in the video espouses. The use of the safety to take up slack is just icing on the cake.
    Secondly such a technique shouldn't be necessary if the trigger is designed in a manner where second stage is clearly defined and easy to feel.
    Thirdly, there will be people buying this trigger who have no idea what they are doing and who probably do not follow safe gun handling practices. Those people are also likely to be unable to properly follow directions, and when they skim through the part about using the safety to take up slack they will most likely miss an important bit of info and in their absent mindedness and negligently discharge.

    The whole thing reaks of bad juju. Feel free to prove me wrong when this trigger hits the market, but I won't be spending the money to try it.
    Last edited by An Undocumented Worker; 11-10-11 at 21:52.

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    It's like watching TV..... You can always tell who the want to watch a TV show by the marketing/commercials. I can't comment on the device because I have never seen it, but I can tell you that the name Hiperfire is meant to attract the bubba crowd, not the "serious" crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a0cake View Post
    Go to 3:25 in this video. Or watch the whole thing if you can take it. At 3:25 it goes FULL RETARD.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQwT8...eature=related
    the Video was removed by the user HMMMMM I wonder what happened


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    Quote Originally Posted by a0cake View Post
    Go to 3:25 in this video. Or watch the whole thing if you can take it. At 3:25 it goes FULL RETARD.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQwT8...eature=related
    Never go full retard.
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    How is this full retard? Not that I care if anyone likes this trigger or not. It's $225 and a bit more than I'd like to spend on a trigger just to experiment with. But explain how this is full retard? What's the difference in settling in on a target and taking up the first stage of my Geisselle before breaking the shot and taking up the slack to take out the creep, then releasing the safety before breaking the shot with a Hiper? If you press too hard on the Geisselle, you get an unintended discharge. Does that make taking up the first stage "full retard"?? If not, why is it full retard to press the trigger to remove creep prior to releasing the safety in the same scenario?

    I'm not "high speed, low drag" when it comes to shooting anything (except rivits), but I've been around firearms since I can remember and I can remember the end of the Jurassic Age. So I have to question if anyone has really thought this through. I agree this technique has no place when it come to shooting badguys in the face, but that doesn't make it "full retard". What about someone getting ready to pop a coyote at 300 yards? Or a steel target at 500? I thought it was full retard to give something the thumbs up (or to TOS it out in this case) without actually using it
    Last edited by MistWolf; 11-14-11 at 16:27.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    How is this full retard? Not that I care if anyone likes this trigger or not. It's $225 and a bit more than I'd like to spend on a trigger just to experiment with. But explain how this is full retard? What's the difference in settling in on a target and taking up the first stage of my Geisselle before breaking the shot and taking up the slack to take out the creep, then releasing the safety before breaking the shot with a Hiper? If you press too hard on the Geisselle, you get an unintended discharge. Does that make taking up the first stage "full retard"?? If not, why is it full retard to press the trigger to remove creep prior to releasing the safety in the same scenario?

    I'm not "high speed, low drag" when it comes to shooting anything (except rivits), but I've been around firearms since I can remember and I can remember the end of the Jurassic Age. So I have to question if anyone has really thought this through. I agree this technique has no place when it come to shooting badguys in the face, but that doesn't make it "full retard". What about someone getting ready to pop a coyote at 300 yards? Or a steel target at 500? I thought it was full retard to give something the thumbs up (or to TOS it out in this case) without actually using it

    Mist, did you watch the youtube video a0cake posted?
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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