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    My carbine length DD chf barrel and spikes NiB bcg eat it and anything else all day. This is this the kind of thing I questioned in another thread before it was prematurely closed.

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    During the Magpul Dynamics course there were a few guys running Brown Bear and Wolf and their carbines seemed fine as far as I remember.

    My gun will eat Hornady steel TAP all day long.



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    I don't understand why shooters spend over $1,000 on a weapon and then run the cheapest shit ammo in it. People are so focused on price these days they have forgotten about the value.
    I'm an FFL/gunsmith, not the holster company. We specialize in subsonic ammunition and wholesale rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Armament View Post
    I don't understand why shooters spend over $1,000 on a weapon and then run the cheapest shit ammo in it. People are so focused on price these days they have forgotten about the value.
    What value? If I'm shooting paper what 'value' does shooting a premium ammo bring me, save perhaps running a little better? But like others in this thread have said, their expensive rifles run the cheaper stuff just fine.

    I fully understand the reasoning of using good ammo when the intent is to shoot things that need shooting...but to use expensive ammo to shoot holes in paper when cheaper stuff is available just makes more sense...especially for those not made of money.

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    My BCM midlenght 16inch SS carbine buffer, LMT 14.5 carbine lenght H2 buffer and my BCM 16inch carbine lenght H buffer runs wolf 55gr and brown bear 62gr H2 buffer fine.

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    I have about 5 midlengths: BCM/DD/Spikes they all run wolf, golden tiger fine. Heck me and my friends ACR and his SCAR runs wolf fine too.

    I havent tried Tula. I always thought Tula was the same thing as Wolf just a different package
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    This does point out a reality of the weapon system -- it's hard to get a weapon to run reliably with a single buffer/spring combo and cover everything from NATO-spec to Tula.

    My advice would be to divide the ammo spectrum in half, and commit to running either the higher end stuff (and paying the price) or running the lower end stuff and buffer it and spring it accordingly. Or just resign yourself to swapping out buffers and springs depending upon what ammo you're running that day. [ETA] In reality, the problemmatic ammo can probably be segregated to the lower 25% and your stock setup is probably already suited to run the upper 75% of the spectrum. You probably don't have to divide the ammo population in half, more like 75/25.]

    And if you commit to running steel casd ammo, by all means keep your chamber clean. Chamber brush, solvent, then dry patch. Even if your a "just lube it and don't bother cleaning" kind of guy, you need to pay attention to this area. Don't let it get carboned up. Brass cased ammo is a bit cleaner in this regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeywhat View Post
    What value? If I'm shooting paper what 'value' does shooting a premium ammo bring me, save perhaps running a little better? But like others in this thread have said, their expensive rifles run the cheaper stuff just fine.

    I fully understand the reasoning of using good ammo when the intent is to shoot things that need shooting...but to use expensive ammo to shoot holes in paper when cheaper stuff is available just makes more sense...especially for those not made of money.
    Amen and Amen.

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    middie with steel case

    My guess...ammo is at the lower end of the pressure curve and certainly not as hot as true USGI spec ammo. It may run with a standard carbine buffer.

    The case is probably not the problem.

    Have fun testing

    Big Pepsi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Armament View Post
    I don't understand why shooters spend over $1,000 on a weapon and then run the cheapest shit ammo in it. People are so focused on price these days they have forgotten about the value.
    I like knowing an AR I just spent a big chunk of change on will digest most any ammo I feed it. Its a requirement to remain in my safe. Any picky eaters will be sold or traded...lol.
    Last edited by wahoo95; 11-12-11 at 10:45.

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