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    Try a carbine buffer, if it doesn't run with a carbine buffer, return to sender, tell them to send you an upper that runs.
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    Tula runs fine through my Rock River carbine 16" as well as my Rainier Arms carbine mid-length 16", and my son's BCM carbine 16". We both run H buffers. My RR 20" doesn't care for it though.

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    This is great steel cased ammo, neither my son nor I have had a misfeed with it in a bit less than 2k rounds.

    http://www.weaponsworld.com/mfs-ammu...-per-case.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSantoro View Post
    Because we've had this back-and forth over steel-case often enough that we don't need to have it here, that's why.

    Fact is, steel-case is what's being used in the rifle in question, steel-case is known to work just fine. Had the primary question been "what do you think of steel-case ammo...," we would not be here in the first place because this would have been shut down ricky-tick.

    But, that wasn't the question, it's NOT the go-to answer for the issue even if that had been the question. Hoofbeats more often mean that a herd of horses is approaching, not a herd of zebras, so if you or anybody else can't post anything without trying to sneak in a steel-case pro/con opinion or a "shooter's financial planning" opinion where it doesn't belong....don't post.

    Plus, the "extra dollar" portion in the OP settles the question of ammo usage on the part of the owner of the gun in question. The prancing and preening isn't necessary, on anybody's part.
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    Switch to a carbine buffer for that ammo and you'll be fine. Use the H buffer for general use, but obviously it's a bit heavy for YOUR rifle when using that ammo for whatever reason. Not a big problem.

    To me (and probably most of us) the cost of the rifle is of little concern, whether $1k or $2k for a rifle is not an issue. The cost of FEEDING it in copious quantities is the issue, so cheaper ammo will allow you to shoot it regularly and enable you to get lots of training/hands-on with the weapon. Expensive ammo will lessen this due to cost.

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    TulAmmo is pretty weak. I've found that guns which can work with Wolf some times have issues with Tula.

    My midlength would not run Tula for a darn. It had issues with Wolf (WPA) but worked with Silver Bear and Brass 5.56 and .223.

    I would say its the ammo that is giving you problems and to try Tula back in another 1000 rounds of working ammo and see if it works then.

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    Well the op mention it wasn't picking up the round.

    But it IS ejecting...so the bolt as enough gas to push it back enough to eject ( how far is it ejecting?), but the spring doesn't have the tension to push the bolt with enough force to strip and push into chamber.......maybe to heavy a buffer in an attempt to slow the bolt? Ease recoil all the while redusing the "relliability" point in types of ammo you shoot now? I dunno....

    I like the peice of mind that no matter what ammo type; if it's cheap steel, premeuim steel, milsurp, .223, or NATO my rifle will shoot it without hesitation to ME that's what I call reliable...but that's me.

    The last rifle I had did this sometimes....The steel case tend to "stick" (not slide like brass) to each other more so than brass when being stripped, I've in the past, when experiencing similar issue, was wet my fingers with some light oil and load a mag getting the steel a bit slick....ran good...didn't have to tinker with my gun.

    Though since I've had this PSA it's cycled everything. I use a standar carbine buffer, spring.

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    fired casings are shorter than live rounds in the magazine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armakraut View Post
    ..............return to sender, tell them to send you an upper that runs.
    Your gun should function with Tula. BCM owes you that.

    btw: I have a BCM 14.5 middy with pws and could not be more satisfied. You made an excellent purchase, but something is wrong. BCM will figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSantoro View Post
    Because we've had this back-and forth over steel-case often enough that we don't need to have it here, that's why.

    Fact is, steel-case is what's being used in the rifle in question, steel-case is known to work just fine. Had the primary question been "what do you think of steel-case ammo...," we would not be here in the first place because this would have been shut down ricky-tick.

    But, that wasn't the question, it's NOT the go-to answer for the issue even if that had been the question. Hoofbeats more often mean that a herd of horses is approaching, not a herd of zebras, so if you or anybody else can't post anything without trying to sneak in a steel-case pro/con opinion or a "shooter's financial planning" opinion where it doesn't belong....don't post.

    Plus, the "extra dollar" portion in the OP settles the question of ammo usage on the part of the owner of the gun in question. The prancing and preening isn't necessary, on anybody's part.
    The quoted response is incomprehensible babble and adds nothing of value to the OP or to the thread.

    Okay, bright one, enjoy your quiet spot to sit and think about things, like M4C forum rules regarding smartassing the staff, and the penalties one may reap from a lack of both schooling and situational awareness.

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