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Thread: Middy won't feed steel case

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    to be fair, only the upper is BCM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Chuck Norris View Post
    The quoted response is incomprehensible babble and adds nothing of value to the OP or to the thread.
    Are you on crack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Chuck Norris View Post
    The quoted response is incomprehensible babble and adds nothing of value to the OP or to the thread.
    Depends on your reading level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Chuck Norris View Post
    Your gun should function with Tula. BCM owes you that.

    btw: I have a BCM 14.5 middy with pws and could not be more satisfied. You made an excellent purchase, but something is wrong. BCM will figure it out.
    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-1...urg-mid-14.htm

    These 14.5" mid length gas barreled upper receiver groups have been specifically tuned to be a very soft and fast shooting set up. They are a joy to shoot, but please feed it good ammo. With good milspec pressured ammo we have been running H buffers. We do not recommend using lower powered ammo. If using less than milspec pressured ammo, it may be best to run a standard carbine buffer.
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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    Bye, Team Chuck.
    Contractor scum, AAV

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerinTPA View Post
    Eh...that all depends... I used to regularly take my ARs (Colts, DD, & LMT) up to 3-4K rounds fired with just Wolf, or Brown Bear, to include using it in Carbine courses, just kept them generously lubed. I did it to prove that my ARs could do it on a regular basis and to quite the nay sayers of using Wolf/Eastern European ammo. On rare occasions, I'd get a stuck case, but I'd attributed that to a lack of lube in the chamber area. Most that do get stuck cases on a regular basis either have .223 chambers or ARs that aren't tuned properly for shooting a wide variety of ammo.

    Several members have valid points about shooting Steel case ammo and I tend to agree:

    1. It's just training ammo/fodder for paper punching or steel dinging.
    2. It's economical, more training opportunity, and you really to get more bang for your buck.
    3. It irritates the ammo snobs at carbine courses when my weapons don't shit the bed while shooting steel ammo. (my personal favorite).
    I do the same thing. I run all my AR's and Sig 556 on whatever ammo i have at the time. Ive actually never had 1 malf with Tula and i shoot alot of it. Seconds later I'll shoot factory brass and handloaded 75gr. without cleaning a damn thing and they still run perfectly. I go home and put the rifles away, grab them and shoot again next time i'm out. Never any problems

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    I have found that my DD 14.5" middy runs steel cased fine using an H buffer.

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    Man what is it lately?



    It says right on the damn BCM website to run quality ammunition through the gun. Tula is 3rd rate commie junk.



    If you want to run the cheapest junk ammo you can then don't buy guns that are not tuned right off that bat to run low pressure ammunition. Not everyone wants to run that shitty ammo, and don't want the extra stress on parts caused by running full pressure quality ammunition through our guns because ill informed people think their shit should run with the lowest quality Ruskie steel case to real 5.56 stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacmaster View Post
    Excellent! Thank you for the constructive advice. Next time I go shoot, I will try this. Sounds like the issue is definitely the lack of gas pressure generated by the ammo.
    Do keep us updated.

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    Thanks for all of the constructive feedback from everyone. To those saying the gun isn't optimized to run the Tula stuff, no shit. It was cheap, so I decided to spend 10 bucks on a couple of boxes. Sue me. I live 10 minutes from PSA, so I buy decent ammo from them 90% of the time.

    Next time I shoot, I will swap out the buffers and see what happens, as well as do a short stroke test with both buffers. I'll post back the results. I've had this upper for over a year and didn't just put the rifle together last week, and I still have no complaints with it whatsoever. Ammo snob comments really add very little to the discussion about the technical capabilities of the weapon in its various configurations.

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