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Thread: Nickel Boron Bolt Carrier Battle: R Guns vs. Spike's

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    material into the bolts, both staking jobs look good to me
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    I agree Armalite is not on the same page they use to, it was an example that's all. I could use the same arguement with Colt though. Theire LE plant is closed and their sporter guns are not built to the same quality as LE guns. Again, just an example because the time frame is no where near the same as in Armalites case. M point though was simple. Not everyone needs a Colt to accomplish their needs. Plenty of guns will fit the bill for most people. Hell, most of the people on this forum could run a DPMS and be alright. The Colt or nothing attitude in the gun community gets a little old some times. If someone is talking up hi point then yeah I can see the knocking. Spikes meets the same TDP as Colt, DD and BCM so I don't personally see the need for the bashing to be honest.

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    i had Grant MOAK my old CMT carrier, they had a lame attempt at staking,

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    Quote Originally Posted by future M4 Owner View Post
    I agree Armalite is not on the same page they use to, it was an example that's all. I could use the same arguement with Colt though. Theire LE plant is closed and their sporter guns are not built to the same quality as LE guns. Again, just an example because the time frame is no where near the same as in Armalites case. M point though was simple. Not everyone needs a Colt to accomplish their needs. Plenty of guns will fit the bill for most people. Hell, most of the people on this forum could run a DPMS and be alright. The Colt or nothing attitude in the gun community gets a little old some times. If someone is talking up hi point then yeah I can see the knocking. Spikes meets the same TDP as Colt, DD and BCM so I don't personally see the need for the bashing to be honest.



    You are full of shit.


    Armalite TODAY has NOTHING to do with the old Armalite other than they bought the name. Its not just an example. Its a factual error on your part, and shows your lack of credence in this subject.


    If you buy a Colt 6920 it is built to the same quality as .mil guns. Do you have any evidence that suggests otherwise? The only difference previously was stupid things like trigger pin sizes and sear blocks.


    Most of the people who are regular members of this site would not do just as well with a DPMS. I have personally seen at least 4 of them choke at the range from manufacturing issues including out of spec chambers or parts breakage. I am sure they can turn out 'some' guns that work but they flat do not put the same level of QC and build quality into guns that some others do.


    Spikes can FOAD for what they did the very night Obama was elected, and then the multiple contradictory statements made shortly thereafter as to why their prices on some things doubled mere hours afterwards. If you want to support that type of company go right ahead. I don't care if their shit exceeds the TDP they will never see a single penny of my money. On the other hand I will continue to buy stuff from companies like BCM who didn't try to make an extra buck off the election, and continually produce quality shit and have since day 1.

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    I'm no expert, I use my rifles for home defense only.

    I went with colt.

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    Yeah I disagree with the DPMS statement........run it hard and it will break.

    I have a DPMS 308, which was fine for me as a new shooter until I started shooting a lot, then I started to have a few issues. Its all good now, but having to tighten the barrel nut and gas block should not be needed....

    OTOH its beautifully accurate...

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    Jesus you guys are dense. You act like this forum is comprised of all Special Forces members. If that were the case then yes, a DPMS wouldn't do the job obviously. The fact of the matter is, 90 percent of this forum is comprised of Tactical Timmy Mall Ninjas who buy LMT, Colts to impress their friends who were actually Special Forces. If you are LEO or prior military then I can see the need/want for Colt products or if you just like quality firearms and can afford the tag then sure. Why would I or anyone else stop you. My point is you guys/ this forum is so dead set on needing the best of the best when most people buy AR's to keep for defense, SHTF or, heres an idea, punch holes in paper. That is where my DPMS comment comes in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdiddle View Post
    Yeah I disagree with the DPMS statement........run it hard and it will break.

    I have a DPMS 308, which was fine for me as a new shooter until I started shooting a lot, then I started to have a few issues. Its all good now, but having to tighten the barrel nut and gas block should not be needed....

    OTOH its beautifully accurate...


    Its far better for a new shooter to buy known good quality equipment right off the bat than struggle with a poorly put together rifle they have to fight and stress out over than concentrate on how to shoot. The DPMS guns I mentioned Ive seen fail all had the owners wasting ammunition, range time, and added stress while they tried to figure out what was wrong INSTEAD of spending that time concentrating on becoming a better shooter.


    If you want to get into the financials of it theres ZERO logical reason why someone would be better off with a 750-900 dollar gun that stands a higher percent of being assembled or manufacturing incorrectly than paying 900-1k for a known quality rifle that has a very slim chance of having an issue.


    If someone cannot afford an extra $200 from a lower quality AR to a high quality AR at around 900-1k then they should not be spending the money on the gun anyways, and they surely cannot afford the ammunition or training needed to become proficient in its use. If all the person wants to do is plink a 10/22 is $200 bucks and you can buy a brick of 22LR for what it costs for one box of match grade 5.56. They would be better off learning on a 22LR than expensive match ammunition, and the dirt clod won't notice the difference.


    I started with a 22LR so its not a 'slight' on anyone. My neighbor introduced me to shooting and taught me about trigger control, sight alignment, ect. I still have my first 22LR right here with me, and have another I use for low cost training and for family/friends.

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    This is like a slap-fight between a pair of retards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by future M4 Owner View Post
    Jesus you guys are dense. You act like this forum is comprised of all Special Forces members. If that were the case then yes, a DPMS wouldn't do the job obviously. The fact of the matter is, 90 percent of this forum is comprised of Tactical Timmy Mall Ninjas who buy LMT, Colts to impress their friends who were actually Special Forces. If you are LEO or prior military then I can see the need/want for Colt products or if you just like quality firearms and can afford the tag then sure. Why would I or anyone else stop you. My point is you guys/ this forum is so dead set on needing the best of the best when most people buy AR's to keep for defense, SHTF or, heres an idea, punch holes in paper. That is where my DPMS comment comes in.



    Why would I buy a brand of gun Ive seen PERSONALLY go down 5 times in the last couple years....when none of my guns have had any of the same failures. Ive never had a chamber so tight it would not feed ammunition. Why would I want to risk that to save 100 bucks?


    I would rather spend my range time shooting the guns, and concentrating on becoming a better shooter than figuring out whats wrong with a shitty gun.


    If $100 bucks difference is going to make or break your purchase on an AR15 you should be saving money not shooting in the first place. Gee $850 on a DPMS or $950 on a BCM.....????

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