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Thread: Nickel Boron Bolt Carrier Battle: R Guns vs. Spike's

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    Quote Originally Posted by future M4 Owner View Post
    Jesus you guys are dense. You act like this forum is comprised of all Special Forces members. If that were the case then yes, a DPMS wouldn't do the job obviously. The fact of the matter is, 90 percent of this forum is comprised of Tactical Timmy Mall Ninjas who buy LMT, Colts to impress their friends who were actually Special Forces. If you are LEO or prior military then I can see the need/want for Colt products or if you just like quality firearms and can afford the tag then sure. Why would I or anyone else stop you. My point is you guys/ this forum is so dead set on needing the best of the best when most people buy AR's to keep for defense, SHTF or, heres an idea, punch holes in paper. That is where my DPMS comment comes in.
    How many of us on this forum can really AFFORD the very best, the gold standard of anything in life? Well most of us can afford the best in AR's. When you can buy an Colt or BCM for the same price or a few dollars more than a DPMS, Bushmaster, Olympic, or Armalite, why not buy it? Why would anyone knowingly buy an inferior product? That is just retarded. FWIW I haven't owned a Colt in over a decade and may not ever. But I do own carbines utilyzing the best, known quality parts without compromises. And the best part is that I KNOW they work in 2000 round classes without breaking or cleaning.
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    IIRC, UCT Coatings, Inc aka Fail Safe is the company that coats Spike's BCAs as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by future M4 Owner View Post
    I agree Armalite is not on the same page they use to, it was an example that's all. I could use the same arguement with Colt though. Theire LE plant is closed and their sporter guns are not built to the same quality as LE guns. Again, just an example because the time frame is no where near the same as in Armalites case. M point though was simple. Not everyone needs a Colt to accomplish their needs. Plenty of guns will fit the bill for most people. Hell, most of the people on this forum could run a DPMS and be alright. The Colt or nothing attitude in the gun community gets a little old some times. If someone is talking up hi point then yeah I can see the knocking. Spikes meets the same TDP as Colt, DD and BCM so I don't personally see the need for the bashing to be honest.
    False. All Colt AR's (no matter if they are LE or Commercial) are the same quality using the same parts (have a letter from a Colt employee telling me such). So don't push that BS on here.

    Next, only TWO COMPANIES hold the TDP and have standard to meet. That is Colt and FNH. So no, other companies are not equal to them (the owner of BCM will even tell you this).

    Now, with that said, DD and BCM make quality products and I would have no issues owning their stuff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by future M4 Owner View Post
    Jesus you guys are dense. You act like this forum is comprised of all Special Forces members.
    Actually yes, there are many of them on here. Along with LE/SWAT, MIL (Infantry, Tier 2 and Tier 1 guys), retired SF and defensive minded Civy's have attend a lot of training.


    If that were the case then yes, a DPMS wouldn't do the job obviously. The fact of the matter is, 90 percent of this forum is comprised of Tactical Timmy Mall Ninjas who buy LMT, Colts to impress their friends who were actually Special Forces. If you are LEO or prior military then I can see the need/want for Colt products or if you just like quality firearms and can afford the tag then sure. Why would I or anyone else stop you. My point is you guys/ this forum is so dead set on needing the best of the best when most people buy AR's to keep for defense, SHTF or, heres an idea, punch holes in paper. That is where my DPMS comment comes in.
    Your numbers on who reads and posts on this forum is 100% incorrect.

    At the end of the day, it does not matter if you are a Tier 1 unit guy shooting terrorists in the face of a Civy that intends to defend his home and property from a home invasion, the need is the same.

    I always like to ask people, what is your life worth? Mine is worth more than a DPMS/BM/RRA/Spikes/Oly/Etc. Yours might not be.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    Why would I buy a brand of gun Ive seen PERSONALLY go down 5 times in the last couple years....when none of my guns have had any of the same failures. Ive never had a chamber so tight it would not feed ammunition. Why would I want to risk that to save 100 bucks?


    I would rather spend my range time shooting the guns, and concentrating on becoming a better shooter than figuring out whats wrong with a shitty gun.


    If $100 bucks difference is going to make or break your purchase on an AR15 you should be saving money not shooting in the first place. Gee $850 on a DPMS or $950 on a BCM.....????
    I just purchased a new BCM 16" Carbine for $850... so the comments that they buy lower quality to save money to me is just a excuse to cover the fact they thought they knew it all and bought a DPMS,BM...or some other cheap gun because the guy at Walmart sports counter told him to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by future M4 Owner View Post
    Jesus you guys are dense. You act like this forum is comprised of all Special Forces members. If that were the case then yes, a DPMS wouldn't do the job obviously. The fact of the matter is, 90 percent of this forum is comprised of Tactical Timmy Mall Ninjas who buy LMT, Colts to impress their friends who were actually Special Forces. If you are LEO or prior military then I can see the need/want for Colt products or if you just like quality firearms and can afford the tag then sure. Why would I or anyone else stop you. My point is you guys/ this forum is so dead set on needing the best of the best when most people buy AR's to keep for defense, SHTF or, heres an idea, punch holes in paper. That is where my DPMS comment comes in.
    Huh. That's a giant slap in the face to all us soldiers here who are not SF but still were involved in unpleasantries elsewhere in the world.

    Clue: you don't need to be SF to appreciate an AR platform that doesn't break. While SF plays an important role, they don't play the only role there genius.

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    One of the things I enjoy the most about this site are the posts by folks that have been there and done that. Not some Mickey Mouse Troll who wants to stir shit and get off topic. I'm retired LEO and I promise you if anyone here thinks they know it all, they're dead wrong. The cemetery is full of know it all's. I try to learn something new every day by being open. That is all.

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    Wow... So apparently companies are using coatings and carrier key staking to attract idiots because that's all I'm reading here.
    How in the hell did the argument for buying a quality BCG degrade into "it's easier to clean, especially with a can"?

    "Buy a Spikes BCG, we properly staked the carrier key and it has Electrolytes"

    Seriously???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave L. View Post
    Wow... So apparently companies are using coatings and carrier key staking to attract idiots because that's all I'm reading here.
    How in the hell did they argument for buying a quality BCG degrade into "it's easier to clean, especially with a can"?

    "Buy a Spikes BCG, we properly staked the carrier key and it has Electrolytes"

    Seriously???
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    My message was not "Colt or go home". In fact I said it was not the holy grail, but that it is the benchmark, the measuring stick, the standard.

    Colt is the MINIMUM quality that most serious shooters want to rely on when their life is on the line, because they can count on the Colt to a known degree. A specific, measureable, known quality that can be expected to do x, y and z. It's still no magic wondergun but you know what you're getting when you buy a Colt.

    BCM, LMT, DD are made in that image and are of similar quality and are also good products. Other brands fall short and other brands exceed what I have thought of as "the standard". I own Colt's and other ARs, and personally I think that a midlength gas system, or Noveske barrel, or the KAC E3 bolt has some advantages over a stock Colt 6920, but when deciding on those weapons - the Colt 6920 would be my measuring stick for comparison.

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