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Thread: A5 EMOD system on a STD carbine

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonconsiglio View Post
    I've been saying that since they were first released in many of the A5 threads. I think the problem is that many of the AR owners out there have never owned a rifle system and don't realize what the differences are. So, they immediately start to compare the standard A5 weight buffer to running an H3 in a carbine RE and think people are screwining around when switching to the A5.
    This foolish shit gets frustrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m4brian View Post
    I suppose the EMOD would be flush with normal a5 extension and endplate.
    It isn't...there's some gap (1/2" or so) I can get a pic if you want. And to answer a previous question I think you asked, the emod can be good for balance depending on your setup. On anything under a 11.5, IMO it's too much.

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    This foolish shit gets frustrating.
    Breathe
    Last edited by munch520; 11-23-11 at 13:05.

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    Gents: all comments appreciated. I ordered the emod with A5 as a kit. My bcm lw upper with fsp rail seems balanced well now with no light and ctr stock. I figure it may work out well with emod and light. If not, I'll try the emod on ddm4 which is more front heavy.
    Last edited by m4brian; 11-23-11 at 18:52.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    That WON'T work. The carbine action spring HAS TO have a greater tension to offset the compression cycle.
    Please explain why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EzGoingKev View Post
    Please explain why.
    The rifle buffer enjoys a lower at rest tension because it doesn't compress as much as the carbine spring has to.

    They both have the same amount of bolt group travel. But the rifle spring compresses less on the buffer because the buffer is longer.

    This is why the rifle buffer, although much heavier than a carbine buffer, still runs on uppers that are optimal with an H Buffer for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    This foolish shit gets frustrating.
    It does. Especially when people have just a little info or knowledge and run with it without truly understanding what they're talking about. The first thing we started hearing about the A5 shortly after release was that it's a bandaid.

    Most don't realize the benefit of a rifle length system and for some reason can't comprehend that what we're looking at is basically a rifle system that allows a collapsible stock. What is so hard about that?

    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post

    This is why the rifle buffer, although much heavier than a carbine buffer, still runs on uppers that are optimal with an H Buffer for example.
    That's what I was getting at earlier as well. Not only do people have a hard time grasping the idea of a rifle length system that allows a collapsible stock, they also can't get the fact that weights between carbine and rifle buffers are not equal. They seem to think that because a rifle system aids in reliability, then an H3 should be equal on a carbine RE.

    For those that have a hard time with this, look at 1911's. Though not the same system, it's easy to see that the shorter the action spring, the more things need to be in perfect harmony to run correctly and the more often they need replaced and the higher weight spring that's needed.
    Last edited by jonconsiglio; 11-26-11 at 11:40.
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