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Thread: A5 EMOD system on a STD carbine

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    ACS, CTR and MOE Stocks will collapse completely. I've run all 3 on my various A5'd guns and they collapse normally.

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    On my DD with DD stock endplate I run a CTR on position 2. The lower I am building will have a regular endplate and with the VLTOR A5 system I ASSUME that ONLY the EMOD will collapse all the way (maybe ACS). I ASSUME that the CTR or Imod WILL NOT.

    1. Is this right?

    2. Will it matter when it comes time to mortar?


    I think the smoothness and possible reliability increase is worth the extra $50-70 bucks on my new lower build because both uppers are 16" carbine gas. But, I'd also like to be able to mortar if the need arises. I can go Emod, but I'm not sure I want the additional 5 oz.


    Thanks.

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    Here are some pictures of the buttstocks in their fully collapsed position with the A5 receiver extension:

    Vltor IMod:



    Magpul MOE:



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    Thanks.

    I suppose the EMOD would be flush with normal a5 extension and endplate.

    Does anyone think that mortaring with a CTR or Imod would be a problem? Normally, the instructions are to collapse the stock completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwfuhrman View Post
    ACS, CTR and MOE Stocks will collapse completely.
    Quote Originally Posted by SteadyUp View Post
    Here are some pictures of the buttstocks in their fully collapsed position with the A5 receiver extension:

    Magpul MOE:

    That's not collapsed completely...



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    M4:

    This is really helpful...

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    Quote Originally Posted by m4brian View Post
    Thanks.

    I suppose the EMOD would be flush with normal a5 extension and endplate.

    Does anyone think that mortaring with a CTR or Imod would be a problem? Normally, the instructions are to collapse the stock completely.
    The EMOD is a bit longer than the IMOD, but I'm not sure if it would collapse completely.

    I don't have any trouble mortaring with the IMOD, but I have to make sure that the the top rear of butt plate hits the ground, otherwise you *can* rip the rubber pad off of the stock (the IMOD has a hole at the end of it, just like a regular M4 stock, that is covered by the butt pad).
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    Quote Originally Posted by m4brian View Post
    Thanks.

    I suppose the EMOD would be flush with normal a5 extension and endplate.

    Does anyone think that mortaring with a CTR or Imod would be a problem? Normally, the instructions are to collapse the stock completely.
    Ok now you got me trying different stocks on my A5... I have and just tried the following:
    The EMOD collapses all the way (This comes with the complete kit)
    The LMT SOPMOD and the IMOD Have to be 1 click out, as do all the other stocks I have. This is not an issue for most people because they don't run with the stock fully collapsed.
    I prefer the IMOD on the A5 system due to the lighter weight. This is my favorite all around stock. Once you get use to the cheek weld on these type stocks you are ruined for life! Very hard to go back, especially with optics and RDs... Just what I have found. I also like the little hole that coincides with the white numbers on the tube....

    In regard to mortaring a round, the end of the A5 tube is flat. So I believe if you collapse the stock as far as it will go (a little closer to the receiver) past the 1, it will be fine. I think if you are choosing the IMOD / CTR... you will be more satisfied with the IMOD. I have the CTR too, good stock but the IMOD is my favorite;
    Adjustable, solid, not as heavy as the EMOD and SOPMOD. Better cheek weld then the CTR. Solid end with a curve and rubber butt pad... I hope this helps
    Last edited by lt211; 11-19-11 at 15:20. Reason: grammer

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    OK - I can get the Emod Kit for a little less than $190. I can buy A5 extension set from one place and the Imod from another and it will total just under $180. So the price point is the same. This will be primarily on a BCM LW Carbine upper (with OmegaX FSP). Originally I was intending on this being a lightweight build, so it seems that Imod is best. But... would love to feel the difference with the Emod - maybe it balances perfectly. I hear that the Emod is a bit more robust...
    Last edited by m4brian; 11-19-11 at 16:18.

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    EMOD: Weight 14oz

    IMOD: Less than 9.4 oz.

    Keep in mind what you might save in ordering from two places you lose in shipping charges x 2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bimmer View Post
    That's not collapsed completely...
    That's exactly how my CTRs and SOPMOD looks when collapsed completely. There's about 3/4" between the front of the stock and the end plate.

    As for mortaring - it'll be fine as the end of the tube contacts the inside rear of the stock when collapsed all the way but not locked.

    If you collapse a stock completely on a carbine receiver extension, it often does not contact the end plate either and there's a small bit of room.

    I've yet to have to mortar any of my rifles with an A5.
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