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    To the OP, here is a link to the mag pouch for your duty belt. A 20 Pmag fits comfortably behind a pistol mag pouch.

    http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=3...ATED-MAG-POUCH

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    Quote Originally Posted by variablebinary View Post
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    Great advice already given. I think before I spent any money, go ahead remove the redi-mag and eotech. Handle the rifle this way and see if it feels right. I agree about the 14.5 vs 16 barrel, but would not cut the barrel, rather I would look for a 14.5 and swap it out, keeping the 16" colt for back-up. I noticed quite a bit of difference, albeit it may have been mental, when handling my 14.5 vs 16. As far as anything else, I think you have received about all the options that one should consider already. Micro t1 +14.5+mag onthe belt+lighter stock+diff. vfg or none at all-> FTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIMBA-LEE View Post
    install a lightweight Plum Crazy lower and save 2-3 pounds. (weights estimated.) Mine as above weighed 6.1 pounds until I started adding more (mostly unnecessary) "stiuff"!
    Ummm, NO. Wait....**** NO!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin64 View Post
    I wanted to ask a little advice here, I feel like my patrol rifle is too damn heavy when I need to lug it around for extended periods of time. I'd like to lighten it up, by changing out some of the accessories... little by little as the budget permits. However, I don't want to lose any capabilities. Here is my rifle and its modifications:

    -Colt LE6940
    -EOTech 516
    -Magpul ACS stock (4 CR123 batteries).
    -MIAD grip
    -Magpul trigger guard
    -Phase 5 EBRv2
    -Viking Tactics Surefire with Viking Tactics mount
    -Tango Down QD full length VFG
    -Redi-mag with one extra 30 round mag (magpul mags).

    I know the Redi-mag with an extra 30 round mag is the #1 source of extra weight, but this is a capability I don't want to lose. If I only have time to grab the rifle and go, I like having two mags on the gun, without worrying about grabbing extra mags.

    What can I do to save a few ounces on my setup? Thanks for any advice.



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    Lose the Eotech for a H1 that will save about 8 ounches or so. Lose the light for an X300 that will save a bit. Lose the quad rail for a Troy TRX and that will save even more weight. Lose the VFG total waste in my opinion and I used to like them. I would not go back to a stock Colt stock as another poster said hate those things now. I like the Vltor Emod the Imod is lighter though I have both.

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    To the OP:

    If weight is that much of a concern for you, I would ditch the Redi-Mag and replace the ACS with a Vltor iMod.

    Also look at replacing your Eotech 516 for an Eotech XPS or an Aimpoint Micro.

    Other options that have already been covered are switching to a upper receiver with a lightweight profile barrel. A 16" BCM light weight middy with a Troy "Alpha" BattleRail would save you some weight over your current Colt upper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin64 View Post
    Unfortunately I can't SBR because I'm in California and my department requires us to have a 16" barrel or a 14.5" with perm attach flash hider/comp. However, about the redi mag, a friend of mine did shave off some of the material on his and it saves some weight. So I might ask him to do that for me.
    Honestly unless your only doing entries you don't want the SBR you give up too much on ballistics.
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    You can't "lose" the rail on a 6940. It's all or nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    Lose the Eotech for a H1 that will save about 8 ounches or so. Lose the light for an X300 that will save a bit. Lose the quad rail for a Troy TRX and that will save even more weight. Lose the VFG total waste in my opinion and I used to like them. I would not go back to a stock Colt stock as another poster said hate those things now. I like the Vltor Emod the Imod is lighter though I have both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    Could all you geniuses please tell me how perming a fh after cutting to 14.5" is going to do anything? That is barely any metal removed and the only place than can service the Colt monolith is SAW.

    This destroys the value of the weapon and prohibits you from changing the flash hider later should it become damaged or if you want to use a silencer.
    On another site someone did the math and it came out that while the weight difference between a 16.1" bbl and a 14.5" pinned bbl is not much objectively, the longer bbl requires an additional ~7.5 oz of upward force, which IS noticeable when handling.

    I'm not one for thinking permanently attached muzzle devices are the best option, but it sounds like a cut to 14.7", reprofile to LW, and pinned A2 FH are good permanent options if he decides the weight of the accessories is necessary. As for value, it's a tool. And as for permanent, a quick trip to ADCO can take care of that problem. Is it more expensive? Yes, but it's not 100% permanent.

    OP, lose the ACS and on-board batteries. Move Mag #2 to your duty belt and lose the redi-mag. Go to a 20 rd mag. Once you've done that look at the more expensive option of a new light like an M300, X300, or TLR-1. If that 's still not enough look into the barrel modifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt guy View Post
    How do you use your sling? A proper fitting sling carriers the load
    Beat me to it. Are you properly using the sling?

    If you really want to loose some weight have you thought about getting rid of the Redi-mag and using a magazine coupler instead?
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