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Thread: FrogLube...behind the scenes, at a glance

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    Why have one company produce a lower with your rollmark? This is very common. Maybe the froglube brand is slightly modified, maybe not. It wouldn't be hard to add additives for a "small" batch of some other stock lubricant.

    I doubt very much any of the gun lubes started out as just for the firearm market. From an industrial lubricant stand point firearms are a very very small market.

    So in short, if it works, go with it. Good for them for finding a niche and making a go of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    This thread has the same subject, but a different topic. It would be like posting all questions about barrels under 1 thread. We have many threads about the same "product/brand", as it were. If the mods don't like it, I wouldn't mind a merge in the slightest.

    My question arises because: If it is so good, why the smoke/mirrors and identical products both on the market from the same manufacturer with no ties to the source and a story about SEAL development for both? Was the roller-coaster lube developed by a SEAL, too?

    I want to know why the half-truths in advertising. Does this not bother others? Has there been anything but back-yard testing so-far to evaluate the more important aspects of the product?
    To be perfectly honest, no I don't care that they take the same product, add a different scent to it and market it under a different label, with a different company created for each brand.

    This is common practice for many consumer goods, especially when it can be used in different industries. Sometimes it's better to market something as a different product so as to get past any emotional hangups a consumer might have, about say using a home laundry detergent as a parts washing agent, or vice versa.

    Froglube doesn't appear to make any claims that Lasky invented the stuff, just helps with development. Perhaps Lasky is a retired Seal who was looking to start his own business, knew some people who had a product he liked, and decided it worked well for firearms and thus rebranded it and started distributing it.

    This part of business,

    Make a discovery "tide works great as a parts cleaner" (completely hypothetical claim there)

    Buy Tide in bulk,

    Rebrand and market to a different target market.

    Profit!


    Maybe it's a slightly different scenario. Some industrial group has lube they are using in one industries, an employee decides to test it on his firearms. Employee finds out it works great for this use. Management wants to start marketing it to firearms enthusiasts, and runs it by the marketing department.
    Marketing department says Gun nuts love Seals, lets find a seal to act as the figurehead of our new Froglube division.

    Company Profits,
    Retired Seal gets payed
    Customers happy with product?

    Great Success!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    Does George Fennel have 2 different people claiming to be responsible for those products?

    Does SLIP re-brand their lubricants so as to compete with each other in a similar fashion?
    I would like to know is track lube charging almost $2.50 per oz for the 2.5 and 5 gallon buckets.

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    I never once believed that SEALs invented this nor thought anyone else on this site did either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas M-4 View Post
    I would like to know is track lube charging almost $2.50 per oz for the 2.5 and 5 gallon buckets.
    I don't kow, but they likely only sell by the gallon or more. You are probably paying more for the convenience of purchasing it in smaller quantities. Do you really think you'd ever go through a whole gallon of the stuff?

    here ya go
    http://uremet.com/carnival.html
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    The only legit thing I have seen so far is SIG Academy seems to endorse it.

    Everything else is based on the simple premise of it being all natural, smelling good, and changing consistency with temperature.

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    My Warren Tactical sights on my daily carry used to rust even with monthly applications of Eezox. With Froglube, they do not. I didn't do that stupid "heat up and apply" rigmarole either.

    Same daily carry (and training pistol) shows a sheen of semi solid Froglube on the parts that I applied it to (again without the heat). When I shoot, the Froglube warms up and turns into an oil. It's done that for over 2k rds. It works as advertised and does not run onto my clothing.

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    There's a long ass thread on Calguns about this. Froglube company people even jump in.

    The basic summary of the thread as I remember it is yes it's basically track lube. One of the FL reps states that the former SEAL assisted in adapting the track lube into a firearms product. If I recall correctly, this turns out to be not entirely true. In the end, it ends with the trillium company guys saying "we don't owe an explanation to anybody, the product works. Use it if you like it, don't use it if you don't." Some of the guys agree, some don't. And the world goes on...the sun will rise tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by An Undocumented Worker View Post
    I don't kow, but they likely only sell by the gallon or more. You are probably paying more for the convenience of purchasing it in smaller quantities. Do you really think you'd ever go through a whole gallon of the stuff?

    here ya go
    http://uremet.com/carnival.html
    Still no price I am going to assume it goes for less than $2.50 per OZ In the track lube label.
    And no I wouldn't need a 2.5 gallon or 5 gallon bucket of it.
    But a quart size would make more real world sense but not at $2.50 per OZ as they charge for the frog lube brand label. With a tiny 4 oz bottle its seems its more for there $$ convenience than mine .

    I would like to add I am sure it works fine as a firearms lube.
    AS DOES many other lubricants. It is just the re-branding , re-pricing, and the BS advertising for the firearms market.

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    Did anyone consider he might have contracted another company who has the manufacturing capability to make and package his product?
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