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Thread: FrogLube...behind the scenes, at a glance

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    I'm done with your pedantic shit, WS6. I'll bet money you won't send a sample to a lab for testing and also that I won't see an AAR from you mentioning any kind of lube in the next year.

    You remind of the people that whine incessantly about Glock's marketing. Marketers and real world engineers reside in two very different camps but you're so goddamned bothered over some Facebook claims that you can't see your hand in front of your face.

    Facebook is for children.

    Unsubscribed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelebowski View Post
    I'm done with your pedantic shit, WS6. I'll bet money you won't send a sample to a lab for testing and also that I won't see an AAR from you mentioning any kind of lube in the next year.

    You remind of the people that whine incessantly about Glock's marketing. Marketers and real world engineers reside in two very different camps but you're so goddamned bothered over some Facebook claims that you can't see your hand in front of your face.

    Facebook is for children.

    Unsubscribed.
    Yes, I'm sorry for acting like a child, my sincerest apologies.

    FWIW, those claims were made my FL's largest vendors on various forums, not facebook.

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    Have you contacted any labs to do the test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    Have you contacted any labs to do the test?
    A member here knows someone who can do said test. I checked out Falex, but have not called them. They run about 50 tests and average the results, so I am not sure on cost. I imagine it would buy me a lifetime supply of CLP, though.

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    WS6,

    So pretty much anything anyone has to say here to you, you're going to pretty much dismiss it.

    If real world, no matter how subjective it is, experience isn't going to help you...why not just ask for the thread to be closed.

    You keep asking the same questions, you're getting the same answers, on top of it all, you dismiss what people who are using it are saying.

    This thread started out with you having some sort of desire to debunk or claim some sort of scam with FL. Now all you're doing is being childish and repetitive with your questions and answers.

    Why not just buy some of the lube, find an independent tester, have them test it and call it a damn day.

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    Take a look at the products this company makes. They publish results.

    Now read the first sentence on their test page.

    http://www.npi-lube.com/wearlife.htm

    If you don't want to spend the money to be provided with the data you wish to depend on then that's not a FL issue.

    Field use is the ultimate test. That's just the way life is.

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    I'm not going to try and break any forum rules, but this is my opinion. Out of all posters on FrogLube, there are two who want to either use crisco or have some scientific study done on FL by some idiot who never has or will fire any weapons. I say WTF happened to common sense. Too many people here , including myself have used FL for a long time. It hasn't blown any of our weapons up or caused any more than normal wear. I have run the shit out of it. The only experts I need to hear from are the other Brothers who have found that the lube works as advertised as I have. I don't need Mr. Wizard or any scientific study to tell me if I like it and it works for me. You can't teach or learn common sense and a couple here definitely are lacking. Go out and shoot the crap out of it like we have and then give your "study" results. If not, STFU. Reminds me of the type, you look down and find a dollar bill. Next statement from this type is damn, why couldn't it have been a five. You say it's a beautiful day and they say and they disagree and say it's an ugly day. One has been asked to stop posting, the other posted that he would stop. Mr. Wizard has not been truthful. I smell a Troll. That is all !
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    A lot of people like it. A lot of experienced people who have been there, done that.

    A lot of the same kind of people like LeMas/RBCD ammunition as well, for much the same reason--they have seen what it does in the real world, outside the lab.

    I am not equating Froglube to LeMas, but I am saying that "It works in the real-world, so just shut up and use it" doesn't do it for me. Especially when it comes to what I term "wonder-products".

    I have simply asked for data on the product. The fan-boy attitude has gotten WAY off the meter here.

    Would love to join in on the Froglube love-fest, but am awaiting a bit of hard data first.

    Lots of hypocrisy here. Many of you have changed what you load your weapons with just because Dr. Roberts tells you that round X performs better than round Y in his lab. Now you want to condemn the lab. I suppose people do what is convenient, and belittling those who do not go along is always in vogue.

    I did start this thread because I viewed the marketing as a scam. I then took it upon myself to dig deeper, posted my findings, and revised my opinion.

    Once I have (if I do attain) data on the product, I will post that, too, and revise my opinion and incorporate it into my weapon maintenance if warranted.

    There is nothing "hateful" or "miserable" about the process in the least, aside from dealing with all the emotional fanatics during the interim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin801 View Post
    I'm not going to try and break any forum rules, but this is my opinion. Out of all posters on FrogLube, there are two who want to either use crisco or have some scientific study done on FL by some idiot who never has or will fire any weapons. I say WTF happened to common sense. Too many people here , including myself have used FL for a long time. It hasn't blown any of our weapons up or caused any more than normal wear. I have run the shit out of it. The only experts I need to hear from are the other Brothers who have found that the lube works as advertised as I have. I don't need Mr. Wizard or any scientific study to tell me if I like it and it works for me. You can't teach or learn common sense and a couple here definitely are lacking. Go out and shoot the crap out of it like we have and then give your "study" results. If not, STFU. Reminds me of the type, you look down and find a dollar bill. Next statement from this type is damn, why couldn't it have been a five. You say it's a beautiful day and they say and they disagree and say it's an ugly day. One has been asked to stop posting, the other posted that he would stop. Mr. Wizard has not been truthful. I smell a Troll. That is all !
    The fly in the ointment are the pictures of guns with excessive wear, and the claims of such that you will find if you look around.
    The OP removed the pictures, but read the thread: http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-guns...-froglube.html

    I have found also issues of wear with SIG's and a 1911 on other forums.

    Were it not for the conflict, I would just go along with the crowd, but it seems a few people HAVE had some issues with more than average wear.

    So now we have 2 groups of "Tried it, BTDT" people and 2 different results.

    THAT is why I would like to see some data.
    Last edited by WS6; 12-15-11 at 10:05.

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    There are things tested in a lab and there are things tested in the operational environment. Shooting people, aside from obvious logistics issues, does not provide repeatable and measurable results. Lab tests do.

    For lube, the end result is a working gun that is no more difficult to clean and no obvious damage. Lab results would be great but they don't tell the whole story here. If we wanted to run Frog Lube in an F1 car different story, test data is far more important there.

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