Magpul Dynamics- The Art of the Precision Rifle

[wilson1911]

I have a question about these. I just bought my AR and promptly went to magpuls site and ordered a few mags and their basic carbine disk set.

I have been looking on the net for something to get my feet wet in the art of "sniping", this term is used loosely. Would these be good for a beginner, or should I keep looking for some books?

I would like to be able to size up a target, adjust the scope, and actually hit the target. Pretty basic stuff. I figured 556 would be good to learn on while I am saving up for my OBR. BUT, I am not against learning with a 22lr either, its cheap lol.

Ok, so I do realize there is lots more to this. Just trying to get started in this.

[jaydoc1]

I have a question about these. I just bought my AR and promptly went to magpuls site and ordered a few mags and their basic carbine disk set.

I have been looking on the net for something to get my feet wet in the art of "sniping", this term is used loosely. Would these be good for a beginner, or should I keep looking for some books?

I would like to be able to size up a target, adjust the scope, and actually hit the target. Pretty basic stuff. I figured 556 would be good to learn on while I am saving up for my OBR. BUT, I am not against learning with a 22lr either, its cheap lol.

Ok, so I do realize there is lots more to this. Just trying to get started in this.

Check out www.snipershide.com. Very no nonsense website for precision shooters with a ton of valuable information and a lot of good online training videos. As all will tell you, though, nothing beats in-person training.

[StrikerFired]

I don't post often, but Dano5326, just dropped the LOGIC BOMB. BOOM...

Mace

Simply.Awesome.

Poof.....

[Jim D]

Think fast Dozer. You're taking a 500 yard shot with a .308 platform. Your elevation adjustment is 3.5 mils. Now, cant your rife 90 degrees to the left. Quickly, tell me WTF you're doing to hit the target. You have no idea without looking it up. I won't even add a crosswind to the problem.

I can appreciate this logic... it makes getting a hit far more complicated, sure.

That said, Todd is a living legend in the LR community, so if he's teaching/ showing it... it probably has a place.

I've been less than thrilled with some of the MP DVD's, but I am very interested in these.

I know next to nothing about LR shooting, but I'm looking forward to soaking up anything I can from Mr. Hodnett. Some friends of frinds of mine have trained with him, and have nothing but deep respect and admiration for the guy... and they are at the top of their game, too. He's on my list to train with someday. I don't have the cash to buy a rifle, fly out to TX, pay for a class, etc... but if I can split the DVD's with a buddy, I'm in.

While no substitue for legit hands on training, it should be a good primer and help introduce some new concepts for me to consider.

[Pork Chop]

I can appreciate this logic... it makes getting a hit far more complicated, sure.

That said, Todd is a living legend in the LR community, so if he's teaching/ showing it... it probably has a place.

I've been less than thrilled with some of the MP DVD's, but I am very interested in these.

I know next to nothing about LR shooting, but I'm looking forward to soaking up anything I can from Mr. Hodnett. Some friends of frinds of mine have trained with him, and have nothing but deep respect and admiration for the guy... and they are at the top of their game, too. He's on my list to train with someday. I don't have the cash to buy a rifle, fly out to TX, pay for a class, etc... but if I can split the DVD's with a buddy, I'm in.

While no substitue for legit hands on training, it should be a good primer and help introduce some new concepts for me to consider.

This is my theory as well.

I want to soak up as much as I can BEFORE taking classes and being the complete beginner holding things up.

Looks like a lot of useful information for the price.

[jwfuhrman]

Agreed with Jim D. I'm very new to shooting much past 600. My experience shooting that far is CMP service rifle matches and camp perry(last time was 2002).... I shoot ALOT of 3gun, usually 2 matches a month, plus have my own 500yd range at home, and setting up out to 1200 on the family farm a mile away. I can constantly hit a 8in AR500 plate with my 3gun rifle out to 500, only because in the last 2 years I've put roughly 2000rds of match ammo and another 3K of 55s thru it in matches and practice.

I'm buying these videos as a way to get into LR shooting, so I don't just go out and wing it. Much like I joined this site to learn what brands are quality and what aren't when I was building a SBR.

MagPul videos are just that, the fundemantals to get you started. To give you an idea of things to work on. Then take a class or 2 or 12 to get actual instruction.

[Raven Armament]

I'm buying these videos as a way to get into LR shooting, so I don't just go out and wing it.

Exactly why I'm buying them.

[rickp]

FWIW, I spoke to a buddy and former sniper team leader with Delta about this. I asked him if they practiced this whole canting thing and his answer was all the time.

I've also had lengthy conversations with one of the head guys at Accuracy 1st. Most of the training they are doing is for USASOC. As a matter of fact, it was one of the reasons the DVD was delayed and some of the content re-shot. Due to the fact that the material is on the USASOC curriculum, it is automatically considered classified and had to be cleared.

Those guys are training and requiring skills at a level that most will never see or understand. As a matter of fact I was told that for guys to graduate they have to make a 1 mile shot with the .308. Most will probably say, why? the .308 is way outside it's capabilities so what's the point? The point is that it still teaches one, a lot of things, from fundamentals to ballistics to general conditions and more.

MagPul videos are just that, the fundemantals to get you started. To give you an idea of things to work on. Then take a class or 2 or 12 to get actual instruction.

Jjwfuhrman,
If I can make a recommendation on LR fundamental training, look at Rifles Only. I went out there a couple of years ago or so and they are top notch. I know Jake, the owner and head instructor at RO and he is a great instructor. If you want more info just PM me.

R.

[sgtlmj]

Got mine specially delivered yesterday. Well, it was really a Christmas present from Uncle Steve for my new-born son, but I'll hang onto it until tummy time turns into the proper prone position.

[SeriousStudent]

Cute kid!

And he's already got a Magpul baby blanket.