Schmidt and Bender Scope Problem

**rickp** · 12-06-11, 12:58

I was out training with a local SWAT sniper team today and I had to cut my training short because my S&B crapped out on me....again!!

The problem is that the scope is causing my shots to go all over the place. For example, shooting at 300y and my shots hitting 6 to 7 inches right of POA. Initially it was subtle enough to make me question my shooting. I spent the last month or so scratching my head and second guessing, my body position, my trigger control, my breathing, pretty much everything. Just recently I started to consider the scope as the problem. I'm a solid shooter but I'm not one to blame my gear when I pull a shot or two. It wasn't until today shooting at 300y that it really answered the "what the f**k is going on" question.

This isn't my first issue with their scopes. A couple of years ago I had issues with one of their scopes too. The whole situation was an absolute nightmare.

At this point they agreed to send me a new one, so that's good. But I have to admit I'm really tired of having scope issues every year and half or so.

So I'm curious any other S&B users out there having problems with their scope.

Thanks
R.

**orkan** · 12-06-11, 14:27

I've not had a problem with the PMII I have.

I agree though... there is nothing worse than a malfunctioning rifle scope. It really wastes a lot of your time.

One would think at that level, you wouldn't have the problem... but I hear about it time and time again. $3100 or more for an optic... that son of a bitch better work!

I feel your pain.

**bp7178** · 12-06-11, 14:28

I had a 1-4x Short Dot LE that had some defects on one of the occular lenses that I sent it back for.

The scope tracked perfectly though.

Did they ever say what exactly the problem with your was? What kind of mounts are you using?

**Belmont31R** · 12-06-11, 14:32

Had 3 and no issues with them.

Every company sends out a bad product from time to time. Glad they are sending you a new one.

**rickp** · 12-06-11, 15:21

Yeah, they agreed to send me a new one without having mine first, so at this point I don't know what the exact problem is.

That's exactly how I feel, $3200 it should WORK, period.

R.

**orkan** · 12-06-11, 15:54

Be sure to examine your rifle and mounting system with a fine tooth comb. Be sure that nothing is "causing" this failure.

For optics at that price range... the company should send you a new scope... then fix the old one and send it back for free. Or at the very least send you a check for the ammo you wasted while dealing with their defective product.

But as usual, companies only stand behind their product as much as they have to, so I doubt we'll see that happen.

**rickp** · 12-06-11, 17:07

Originally Posted by orkan

Be sure to examine your rifle and mounting system with a fine tooth comb. Be sure that nothing is "causing" this failure.

For optics at that price range... the company should send you a new scope... then fix the old one and send it back for free. Or at the very least send you a check for the ammo you wasted while dealing with their defective product.

But as usual, companies only stand behind their product as much as they have to, so I doubt we'll see that happen.

Yeah I don;t see that happening either. It would be nice though. I'm just pissed my training was cut short, real short.

**bp7178** · 12-06-11, 17:29

Originally Posted by orkan

For optics at that price range... the company should send you a new scope... then fix the old one and send it back for free. Or at the very least send you a check for the ammo you wasted while dealing with their defective product.

But as usual, companies only stand behind their product as much as they have to, so I doubt we'll see that happen.

That's one big pipe dream.

I'm a little pissed about my scope. Defects in lenses are pretty easy to catch during manufacturing. If there was a competing product which offered the same capability I'd be using it...