strobe vs non-strobe light for HD

[streck]

You are buying some reaction time, is all. One student in this class got lit the hell up using an x300 while I had trouble picking up guys who entered while using the strobe, and I had better success against them using the strobe than not.

Fair enough.

Ultimately, it is another tool that can fall into the "It's better to have an not need...." category since cost and weight are not much of a factor.

[Jim D]

so was that supposed to show that the strobe is better?

Was it that obvious? lol

[Shawn.L]

Yeah, I was big on the "gimmicky BS , gonna give the BG seizures, bullshit" bandwagon for a while.

But Southnarc has a pretty impressive technique for utilizing it , and does some outstanding demo's with it. After said instruction being bale to use it effectively against other's in the training environment sold me.

I dont think I can do the material justice posting about it, and I also dont think anyone is really going to use it to its potential without quality instruction.

Im using a 4sevens Quark Tactical, and you can access modes with a twist of the cap so there is no "tripple tap for SOS" function going on. I just select either of 2 modes I have pre set. which is "stupid bright" and "strobe" .

[NCPatrolAR]

Was it that obvious? lol

Thanks. I certainly didn't get that from the video.

[Jim D]

Thanks. I certainly didn't get that from the video.

Sure. I guess the camera doesn't quite capture light or give the viewer the same "flashbulb" effect as being there in person, but I had hoped that it helped explain the difference between the two techniques, and I thought that clip did a reasonable job of showing it's effectiveness.... maybe not I guess.

[NCPatrolAR]

Sure. I guess the camera doesn't quite capture light or give the viewer the same "flashbulb" effect as being there in person, but I had hoped that it helped explain the difference between the two techniques, and I thought that clip did a reasonable job of showing it's effectiveness.... maybe not I guess.

The issue I have with the video is that the non-strobing light seems to always be held at the same level through out the demo and the light seems to be on longer than it should be. Its a classic case of how to not use a light (whether using a strobing or non-strobing light)

The strobing light in that video appears to be used at various heights and in an arcing motion. Both are tactics that should be employed with any light being used.

If I'm wrong on how the lights were used or the purposes of the demo (ie the "flashbulb" was intentionally done in less than desireable manner) please let me know.

[Jim D]

The issue I have with the video is that the non-strobing light seems to always be held at the same level through out the demo and the light seems to be on longer than it should be. Its a classic case of how to not use a light (whether using a strobing or non-strobing light)

The strobing light in that video appears to be used at various heights and in an arcing motion. Both are tactics that should be employed with any light being used.

If I'm wrong on how the lights were used or the purposes of the demo (ie the "flashbulb" was intentionally done in less than desireable manner) please let me know.

Yeah, I asked SouthNarc to demo the difference between the more classical flashbulb technique and what he had just showed us with the strobe... so that's what was shown.

The demo wasn't done PURELY to showcase the difference between a strobe vs. regular, rather what he had just showed us versus what many of us were used to.

FWIW, I've had low light blocks of instruction from some pretty credible dudes, and non showed or emphasized moving the light as erratically as SouthNarc showed us (changing levels, arcing, moving opposite your direction of travel, etc)... most all of the instruction I've had on "low light technique" was on positions to shoot from with the light, and not nearly the emphasis on "searching/hunting" techniques.

[NCPatrolAR]

most all of the instruction I've had on "low light technique" was on positions to shoot from with the light, and not nearly the emphasis on "searching/hunting" techniques.

Unfortunately this is extremely common. While there is some cross-over between shooting and searching techniques; I've found that the techniques I use to search a structure are often not the same methods taught in lowlight shooting classes.

[mercop]

Remember the old days when we had to use our thumb to strobe. But that led to all those cases of CST (Chronic Strobe Thumb)- George

[Rolin808]

never used or owned a tactical light until recently for the simple fact that i may give my adversary an early advantage , but got a good deal on a light so we'll see how she runs or better yet how i perform with her. Any tips?