1-4x Scope for Duty use?

[bp7178]

If anything a scope make a gun top heavy.

But, they add a capability not found with a RDS alone.

On the Leatherwood CMR, I found that it was an ok scope for the money. It's at the very low end of price. The turrets didn't track well for me.

That was a huge difference in going to a S&B. The turrets on my Short Dot tracked perfectly. Completely different price point though.

[cop1211]

The Meopta ZD is small and light, also a very nice scope.

[Jaysop]

With all due respect come on. Your crying about a little weight. Most three gun shooters are running 1-4,5,6's and they don't whine about it. Also how is it a balance issue as the scope is right in the middle of the guns fulcrum point. It should not make it front or back heavy.
Pat

Your completely missing the point. And obviously a competition gun is far different then a duty weapon.

I'm not LE but I would imagine in a circumstance that they'd be carrying a rifle for an extended period of time would wear on them
Especially because they're not used to it.

As for me bitching about the weight... It makes my rifle unbalanced. Top heavy is a problem. Weight isn't my issue, I've carried belt fed weapons for quite some time...

[Alaskapopo]

Your completely missing the point. And obviously a competition gun is far different then a duty weapon.
I'm not LE but I would imagine in a circumstance that they'd be carrying a rifle for an extended period of time would wear on them
Especially because they're not used to it.

As for me bitching about the weight... It makes my rifle unbalanced. Top heavy is a problem. Weight isn't my issue, I've carried belt fed weapons for quite some time...

Actually the different rifles are not really that different. This is coming from a LEO who is also a competition shooter. There are some differences such as needing a light and back up sights on a duty weapon but that’s not a ton of weight. And frankly balances matters more to a competition shooter than to a combat shooter. In competition you can win or lose by mere tenths of a second at times. Balance and how the rifle points and feels can make the difference in winning and losing. On a duty weapon most people don't even appreciate the difference between a good balancing rifle and a poor one. They don't shoot enough to know the difference.
Here are examples of each both wear low power variable scopes.
Duty Weapon.


Three gun rifle.


To each their own but I just don't get the "un-balanced" perception you seem to have. Personally I don't like to be limited by a rifle that has no magnification. No offense is meant by this post and thank you for your service in the Marine Corps.

[Jaysop]

Actually the different rifles are not really that different. This is coming from a LEO who is also a competition shooter. There are some differences such as needing a light and back up sights on a duty weapon but that’s not a ton of weight. And frankly balances matters more to a competition shooter than to a combat shooter. In competition you can win or lose by mere tenths of a second at times. Balance and how the rifle points and feels can make the difference in winning and losing. On a duty weapon most people don't even appreciate the difference between a good balancing rifle and a poor one. They don't shoot enough to know the difference.
Here are examples of each both wear low power variable scopes.
Duty Weapon.


Three gun rifle.


To each their own but I just don't get the "un-balanced" perception you seem to have. Personally I don't like to be limited by a rifle that has no magnification. No offense is meant by this post and thank you for your service in the Marine Corps.

I just realized your up in Alaska, I can see why magnification would be beneficial to you. In my head im picturing using a LE owned rifle in a urban area. I dont know what is really necessary as a LEO but I draw my preference from MIL experience so I very well may be very far off.

As for the balance issue I notice it in unconventional shooting positions mostly. But I also feel like it "tips" my rifle. Once a slight angle occurs is when I feel it. It doesn't really DO anything to my shooting but its something I notice time to time.

What I meant by Competition rifles and duty rifles being very different I meant their purpose. But I am surprised to see how similar your two rifles are. But im glad it works for you and keeps you safe. Your also lucky to be able to use what you like. A local cop here said very few have ARs and the ones that do have Bushys.


I would be completely on board with a variable if trijicon would come out with a compact 1-4 with a horseshoe ret.

[Alaskapopo]

I would be completely on board with a variable if trijicon would come out with a compact 1-4 with a horseshoe ret.

Me too. That and to use their new solar cell to power it instead of the fiber optics. I found out one night that those fiber optic coils are a huge target indicator if you forget to close the cover over them. (it was a gun call too) fortunately I noticed it before getting too far from my vehicle and near the bad guy. We are a small department without a lot of money. I carry my own guns. We issue DPMS AR's which I hate. I have managed to go through them and get them to function however. We only have 5 DPMS issue guns. 4 of the guys use them. The rest use their own rifles.
The main difference in set up is the muzzle device. A good muzzle brake is really hard on your ears if you need to fire it indoors. I am thinking about getting a small can for the duty gun when funds allow.
Pat