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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmzy View Post
    Seriously? Ok Ironman.

    3-4 emails with no reply? Simple questions?

    If you're selling a products by the thousands, ya better be able to provide some communication to your customers. Even if it's a reply to a customer's email a month late. Look at his industry forum on TOS. Many people in there trying to reach him via phone, email, site IM etc. Nothing.

    If our vendors like Grant were to pull that shit on here, WW3 would begin.
    I'm not saying that it's right, I'm not making excuses for him or his company, and it's definitely not how I would run my business, but my point is that I highly doubt the same informative guy that I/we talked to early on is now all of a sudden an "unreachable d-bag". Just wouldn't make sense...perhaps it has something to do with it being a fairly new company that came into a market that is going full retard.

    As for other vendors being unreachable, do you remember trying to reach BCM just a few short years ago? Not sure how they are now, and maybe I was just unlucky, but I NEVER got anyone on the phone, and maybe only got one email back.

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    Brahmzy,
    If your product works as advertised WTF could you possibly want to talk to the proprietor about that would matter?

    I buy Colt products because I NEVER want to talk to those union assholes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave L. View Post
    Brahmzy,
    If your product works as advertised WTF could you possibly want to talk to the proprietor about that would matter?

    I buy Colt products because I NEVER want to talk to those union assholes.
    That's my take on anything gun related. I want to buy it and run it.

    I never want to talk to anyone, or have to return anything. I hate people.
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    Usually you get more out of smashing your face into a brick wall than in a conversation with an Engineer.
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    In one of the attempts, I was trying to get a roll pin because I was shorted one. Yes I could've sourced the proprietary roll pin somewhere else, but I figured I'd give him a try and see if I could buy about 10 extras. I did end up buying extras elsewhere after some hassle. Talking to another guy, he was shorted a set screw (pretty major deal IMO.) So in some cases, you bought a $100 product and are unable to use it.
    Look I'm not trying to stir any kind of shit up here, but Syrac is a small company offering a niche product. Syrac is not Colt. I think of Roger at BattleArms, or the guys at Battlecomp or Jason at Gear Sector. Pretty small shops. Undeniably some of the best CS in existence despite their size.

    Just sayin'. Carry on. Sorry to derail the thread.
    Last edited by Brahmzy; 03-21-13 at 12:21.

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    Instead of starting a new thread I thought I'd just add onto this one as there's already a lot of good information here. Despite the manufacturer's warning, common sense, my better judgement, and the complete absence of any reason to do so I took my Syrac gas block apart within 10 minutes of getting it in the mail. I know, I'm retarded. After a good amount of time scratching my head trying to figure out how to put this puzzle back together and more time looking for a goddamn 1mm ball bearing on the garage floor here are my instructions for getting it back together.

    1. Don't ****ing take it apart. Seriously I got really lucky finding the ball bearing that is guaranteed to go flying even while you're trying not to let it. Trust me this gas block is designed and manufactured. You don't need to see for yourself.

    2. Assuming you have all the pieces in front of you cover the gas port (where it would link up with the gas port in the barre) with tape. This will keep the ball bearing from falling out the port.

    3. Place the detent button spring into the detent button hole followed by the detent button. the deepest part of the cutout in the detent button should be closest to the surface. You'll know you have this part reversed if, once you have everything assembled, the detent won't extend and lock the set screw.

    4. Place the ball bearing on the end of a magnetic 1/16" punch and, through the set screw hole, manipulate it into the lateral hole that communicates the detent button hole and the set screw hole.

    5. Depress the detent button fully.

    6. Insert the set screw and screw it in until about 1/4" protrudes.

    7. Release the detent fully.

    8. Rotate the set screw until the detent button pops out and locks the set screw from rotating. This shouldn't take more than 90 degrees. The gas block should now be functional.

    If the detent won't pop out and the set screw turns 360 degrees with out you actively depressing the detent then you probably have the detent in backwards.

    DON'T TAKE IT APART.

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    Haha, great post - thanks for the laugh. And yeah, while tempted I didn't take mine apart.

    Mystery solved on the CS issues:
    From TOS:

    from FB:
    We are still around! Not out of business. We moved (which was a huge mess), lost a great employee and business shot to the moon. I am trying to get a hold of the horns on this beast (day to day operations), so I can spend time doing what I love designing new stuff and communicating with customers. Please email me direct if you like at jason@syracordnance.com

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    Like the product

    I got my first one and 'of course' took it apart to confirm how it was made... Putting it back together, wear safety glasses (i.e. don't take it apart).

    Very nice product, machining, finish.

    Will be helping to install this on a friends 11.5" NFA SBR this week (working with him). I'm putting another one on a 7.5" NFA M16 upper. That will be a true test.

    With regard to communication/CS. Guys, running a small business is very time consuming, been there done that.... Moving a machining business would suck much worse than a sewing/quilt retail store (my day job, fixing 'full auto' sewing machines).

    Jason, Great product, design and workmanship...

    (got mine from Brownells, I'm just a customer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkmckinley View Post
    1. Don't ****ing take it apart.
    Why is everyone doing that? Shit... I worked the adjustment and was happy that is was solid and locked up tight.
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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    Mark,
    Answer:
    1. I'm an semi-retired engineer (Electronic/Optical/DOD...), it is in the DNA I suspect.
    2. I'm dumb, see 1.
    3. Have Mill, Lathe and other machine shop tools.... must make stuff (or buy it when it is a better path.... and has machining done on NC gear not practical with a manual/no DRO equipment).
    4. Not broken, must fix/disassemble. (or in actual order.... Not Broken -> Disassemble -> Must Fix)

    On second thought, I would guess most of us on this board are hands on folks... it is only natural to want to see how cool stuff works.

    Then again, it would be easy to lose an eye with many spring tensioned assemblies.... Browning 1919 bolt recoil spring, 1911 and similar....SYRAC tiny ball bearing pressure part with heavy action spring....

    Safety glasses are our friend when working on firearms and reloading (and doing dumb stuff).
    Last edited by USAF1980s; 03-27-13 at 09:56.

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