AAR Vickers Tactical Home Defense / US Training Center (Moyock, NC) Nov 4-6th 2011

[Jim D]

What?!

You can't train at USTC with LAV and not go to the Cracker Barrel... everytime you do, God kills a kitten.

It should just start going on the course announcements.

[Heavy Metal]

You know, they have a large selection.

I usually get the double-meat Breakfast. It is a safe choice.

[MFP]

Titleist,

“Holmes, you’re gonna really hate life when we get into the house with that fiber optic front sight…”

Can you expand why the fiber optic front sight was not a good choice with examples from the shoothouse under various light conditions?

My G19 has a black read DP sight and front is DP FO.

Thanks,

MFP

[Titleist]

Because even subconsciously night sights give you general alignment of the sights under low-light, no light. And the fiber front sight, especially on a pistol without a weapon light can be VERY slow to align your shot.

My FLX is a game gun, for a home defense gun I usually use my M&P 9c or my SBR.

What?!

You can't train at USTC with LAV and not go to the Cracker Barrel... everytime you do, God kills a kitten.

It should just start going on the course announcements.

Sorry...sorry...I didn't mean to kick anyones' dog or somethin'. I'll make my stomach harden the f*ck up.

[Mark71]

Titleist,

Thanks for the great pics and detailed AAR. This class looked awesome!

[30 cal slut]

Because even subconsciously night sights give you general alignment of the sights under low-light, no light. And the fiber front sight, especially on a pistol without a weapon light can be VERY slow to align your shot.

My FLX is a game gun, for a home defense gun I usually use my M&P 9c or my SBR.




Sorry...sorry...I didn't mean to kick anyones' dog or somethin'. I'll make my stomach harden the f*ck up.

I'd also add that LAV has indicated in past classes that fiber optic sights are fragile. We had a few break in several of LAV's handgun classes.

[Jim D]

Sorry...sorry...I didn't mean to kick anyones' dog or somethin'. I'll make my stomach harden the f*ck up.

Atta' boy!

[Watrdawg]

Heading to CB tonight. May have to have breakfast for dinner.

[subzero]

Once you start going through a tight hallway you quickly realize that one of the best weapons is still your handgun, purely for the maneuverability it provides. Given that the next best thing is a short barreled rifle with a good Red Dot Optic…again that being an Aimpoint. Even at 11.5 inches, plus a suppressor, that setup starts feeling huge as hell in a hallway that’s 4-5’ wide.

QFT

I did a run or two with my 14.5" barreled carbine and it was just as unwieldy as the 16" I tried using in similar situations before. Once I switched to my handgun I immediately felt more comfortable and better able to handle the various angles without flagging myself.

If my form had come back for my MP5, it'd be a different story. Next time, perhaps.

[30 cal slut]

QFT

I did a run or two with my 14.5" barreled carbine and it was just as unwieldy as the 16" I tried using in similar situations before. Once I switched to my handgun I immediately felt more comfortable and better able to handle the various angles without flagging myself.

If my form had come back for my MP5, it'd be a different story. Next time, perhaps.

I was thinking a 10.5 inch piston upper with a lightweight can would be a good tool to have. Next year, maybe.