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Thread: Which EOtech suits my needs best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post

    Oh and one last thing, some people may argue it but if a threat is so immediate that you're worried about the ~1 second turn on of the EOTech vs the constant on of the Aimpoint, he's probably close enough that you'll hit him from the high ready alone.
    Not to derail, but this is the thing that people really use as the arguing point between AP and EO.

    The common argument is a piece of mind thing about always having the AP on and ready, and not having to use "fine motor control" to turn it on during a panic situation.

    IMO, if someone is going to take the time and "fine motor control" to load & make ready, insert ear pro (as many here advocate), and manipulate the trigger correctly...then they can press the button.

    And, like you said, if there isn't time to turn it on because they're already that close, then the whole unit works like a pretty good ghost ring if you need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrigandTwoFour View Post
    Not to derail, but this is the thing that people really use as the arguing point between AP and EO.

    The common argument is a piece of mind thing about always having the AP on and ready, and not having to use "fine motor control" to turn it on during a panic situation.

    IMO, if someone is going to take the time and "fine motor control" to load & make ready, insert ear pro (as many here advocate), and manipulate the trigger correctly...then they can press the button.

    And, like you said, if there isn't time to turn it on because they're already that close, then the whole unit works like a pretty good ghost ring if you need to.
    I don't think the fine motor control is the issue. The OP says he might use the optic for LE. That means he may be grabbing the rifle out of the patrol car and running to engage an immediate threat. He's already doing several other things, he doesn't need to shoulder his rifle and not have a reticle! Or, as my last bad experience with a EOtech went down- somebody else covering the front door of a barricaded subject armed with a revolver, and his EOtech died. We were there for less than an hour before that happened.

    For a team doing planned entries, they can replace the batteries before each entry and test their gear. Patrol officer, not so much. Home defense use would probably be fine- ranges are close and hopefully the house is hardened enough that there is some reaction time from the alert to the confrontation.

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    Damnit.
    I hate these AP vs Eo threads.
    They are both caipable optics.

    HOWEVER
    There are far more issues with the EoTechs than with Aimpoints.
    Doesn't mean that every Eo will explode in your face, or that no AP has ever gone down, just that numbers are on the side of APs.

    The "leave it on" caipability of the AP is not insignificant. There are several reasons why one might grab and rifle and have to immediately move to another position while being unable to positively turn it on and have the need to immediately employ it with more than torso precision.

    A specific unit getting issued a specific piece of gear doesn't mean dick, and even less if your mission is different than their mission. Lots of items are adopted and subsequently dumped due to lack of performance, and when anything breaks it can be replaced immediately by their supply chain (which greatly reduces many concerns) and an endless supply of batteries. Lots of dudes that do this for a job prefer something other than the Eo, though there are quite a few that like the Eo.

    Everything has the possibility of breaking; regardless of what you get be sure to get a good fixed BUIS, zero it, and train with it.
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