Leupold Mark6 1-6x Optic Updates

[ra2bach]

Those target knobs on the 1.25-4x VXR Patrol are a huge mistake IMO. I believe I've bumped them out of zero more than once. You can reset the knobs so at least you know when you're bumped, but they just serve no damn purpose at all on that optic.

Can't say if they have a place on the 6x until I see it, but my gut reaction is that they do not.

I agree Rob. at the ranges I use a 1-4, I leave mine capped and use dots/hashes for ranging and holdoff. turrets, IMO, are for 10x and up.

btw, good to see you back...

[Failure2Stop]

I agree Rob. at the ranges I use a 1-4, I leave mine capped and use dots/hashes for ranging and holdoff. turrets, IMO, are for 10x and up.

I do the same.
Out to 300 I just hold for elevation and wind. If the wind is not a significant factor I will just use Mil holds out to 500.

If I am shooting past 300 with wind effect I dial elevation and hold for wind. I occasionally dial for distances between 200 and 300, but only if I am shooting at very small targets, and really that is just for more consistency during wind hold-off.

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[ICANHITHIMMAN]

Capped turrets are one of the reasons I run the Horus Talon. I dont want them on my Mk6 tough I want locking turrets or very stiff ones.

[TehLlama]

Capped turrets are one of the reasons I run the Horus Talon. I dont want them on my Mk6 tough I want locking turrets or very stiff ones.

Dunno, if the CMR-W reticle does work well, there might be a case for the base most affordable unit to borrow capped turrets from elsewhere on the line, but in general, I think that's dumb, since I'm assuming a LOT of the cost savings across the Mk6 line is coming from sharing parts between the 1-6x and 3-18x models, and one of the selling points of the CQBSS Mk8 is how those locking turrets work.

Relying strictly on secondhand information (from Stick and John McPhee) that wasn't an issue, and the windage and elevation were both .2mil per click.

The CMR-W reticle is growing on me, and if the TMR reticle isn't an ITMR (ideally with just an illuminated dot at the center) then it may well be 'the' reticle for this.

[bp7178]

I think Gearscout did a very through review of the Mark 6, and the author had complaints about the CMR, which mirrored my view of the CMR on the Mark 4 1.5-5x.

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...mm-riflescope/

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

Dunno, if the CMR-W reticle does work well, there might be a case for the base most affordable unit to borrow capped turrets from elsewhere on the line, but in general, I think that's dumb, since I'm assuming a LOT of the cost savings across the Mk6 line is coming from sharing parts between the 1-6x and 3-18x models, and one of the selling points of the CQBSS Mk8 is how those locking turrets work.

Relying strictly on secondhand information (from Stick and John McPhee) that wasn't an issue, and the windage and elevation were both .2mil per click.

The CMR-W reticle is growing on me, and if the TMR reticle isn't an ITMR (ideally with just an illuminated dot at the center) then it may well be 'the' reticle for this.

I have the TMR now in my MK4 M5 I like it but I am realy hoping for a Horus

[MadAngler1]

I think Gearscout did a very through review of the Mark 6, and the author had complaints about the CMR, which mirrored my view of the CMR on the Mark 4 1.5-5x.

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...mm-riflescope/

Thank you very much for that informative review. Unfortunately, now I'm sad after reading it. I was really hoping for a short dot style set up. I guess I'll just have to go ahead and buy a S&B Short Dot to get what I want. The Swarvo 1-6x's exit pupil is just to small for my eyes on 1x magnification.

Thanks again.

[Alaskapopo]

Thank you very much for that informative review. Unfortunately, now I'm sad after reading it. I was really hoping for a short dot style set up. I guess I'll just have to go ahead and buy a S&B Short Dot to get what I want. The Swarvo 1-6x's exit pupil is just to small for my eyes on 1x magnification.

Thanks again.

Really I have found it to be great.

[bp7178]

Thank you very much for that informative review. Unfortunately, now I'm sad after reading it. I was really hoping for a short dot style set up. I guess I'll just have to go ahead and buy a S&B Short Dot to get what I want. The Swarvo 1-6x's exit pupil is just to small for my eyes on 1x magnification.

Thanks again.

I would look at it again when it goes to retail. God knows what they will change between now and then.

Exit pupil is a factor to eye box, not the only factor. I haven't gotten behind a Swaro 1-6x, but their popularity in 3-gun circles makes me think they work well up close and at distance.

I owned one of the newest generation Short Dot LEs, with a P3 reticle. I kept thinking for how much I had into it, I wish it had a little more magnification.

The S&B has also went up in price. IIRC, the 1-4x Short Dot LE is now set at a retail of about $2900, up from $2750.

I think much hub-bub is made about ranging with low power scopes. From practicing with my S&B, I can tell you that shit is really hard. Its not like you're looking through a 25x scope. It is my belief that the dots are better used as reference marks for hold off/overs, not so much ranging.

I'm still wanting a Leupold VX-6 with the Firedot SPR reticle. Less than 1/3 the price of the S&B, and much of the capability.

[MadAngler1]

Really I have found it to be great.

I'm -9D with astigmatism. I shoot mostly with glasses while wearing Sordins. It is very difficult for me to get a good sight picture with the Swarvo, as compared to the accupoint I recently sold (9.5 vs 17 mm exit pupils). Even when I wear contacts it's hard. In both cases, I had either scope mounted in a LT-104 (I got to try the Swarvo on a friend's AR). Perhaps a higher scope mount would help a little, but I have no problem with the accupoint.

I agreewith bp7178's remark about ranging finding capabilities on 1-4x scopes. Holdovers are far more important. For me, the 4x is so I can hit those 8" plates more consistently at 100-200 yards. It definitely helps me, but the Aimpoint is definitely king 50 yards in.

It definitely sickens me how much S&B went up in price. I really wish Nightforce would make a short dot style scope. I love the NXS 1-4 I tried once, and I own a 2.5-10x32 that is a fine piece of glass for a SPR.