Leupold Mark6 1-6x Optic Updates

[bp7178]

Any more news? Seems like there's a few in the field..wish we could see a real in depth review already!

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...mm-riflescope/

I posted this link earlier in the thread. Probably the best review I've ever read of a scope.

The M6 3-18x intrests me as well. Same weight as a 1-4x Short Dot LE and a bit under 2" longer. I just can't figure out how the illumination works, the only knob i'm seeing is the turrets and parallax adjustment.

I keep wanting a one in all scope, but I think I may be happier going with something line the 3-18x and a RDS on an offset.

[Singlestack Wonder]

Since there's no SFP dot in the Mk6 line, I could see the CMR-W reticle being a good choice, EXCEPT, they put a damn BDC in the thing instead of a real mil-based reticle. At 1x an illuminated horseshoe would be good, but once you crank it up to where you might actually be using holdovers, being load dependent just effs it all up for me. And I've never been a fan of illuminated FFP crosshairs at 1x. I'm just not fast with them. Probably a training issue more than anything but when you're paying for your own ammo sometimes you just don't get to shoot as much as you'd like.

I wish they'd put something like the Gen2XR in it with either a SFP dot, or a horseshoe around the center crosshairs so that some daylight visible illumination made it usable at 1x.

I pre-ordered the SWFA 1-6 instead. I hope I'll be happy with it. If not, wanna sell your Premier 1-8?

The Mark 6 CMR-W reticle does having ranging capabilities via a scale on the left side of the reticle. I think it is a well thought out reticle design offering both BDC and ranging capabilities.

[TehLlama]

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...mm-riflescope/

I posted this link earlier in the thread. Probably the best review I've ever read of a scope.

The M6 3-18x intrests me as well. Same weight as a 1-4x Short Dot LE and a bit under 2" longer. I just can't figure out how the illumination works, the only knob i'm seeing is the turrets and parallax adjustment.

I keep wanting a one in all scope, but I think I may be happier going with something line the 3-18x and a RDS on an offset.

It looks like the 3-18x is something that will fit and compete deliberately with the S&B PMII optic - and to do so, it's going to be a touch heavy. I'm looking at one, but I suspect it won't replace my NXS 3.5-15x on a .308 rifle.

The ShortDot isn't exactly light, and I'm worried that either the quality of the glass won't be up to even NF standards, or the weight might be a touch lowball on the higher zoom Mk6.

It does seem like the 1-6x will be lighter than the short dot, but I still can't get over the objective lens size - I know it's not a huge limitation at unity zoom, but even at 4x in low light, I think more lens up front is still going to equate to more light; and if I'm stuck with a reticle that amounts to an evolved battery powered ACOG unit, why not go with the Trijicon that works fairly well w/ BAC up close and gives better FOV at zoom?

[Singlestack Wonder]

It looks like the 3-18x is something that will fit and compete deliberately with the S&B PMII optic - and to do so, it's going to be a touch heavy. I'm looking at one, but I suspect it won't replace my NXS 3.5-15x on a .308 rifle.

The ShortDot isn't exactly light, and I'm worried that either the quality of the glass won't be up to even NF standards, or the weight might be a touch lowball on the higher zoom Mk6.

It does seem like the 1-6x will be lighter than the short dot, but I still can't get over the objective lens size - I know it's not a huge limitation at unity zoom, but even at 4x in low light, I think more lens up front is still going to equate to more light; and if I'm stuck with a reticle that amounts to an evolved battery powered ACOG unit, why not go with the Trijicon that works fairly well w/ BAC up close and gives better FOV at zoom?

If one doesn't need illumination while shooting from a dark area into a well lit area, then the Trijicon TR series are OK. The lack of a good reticle design still exists in the TR series.

[lwrkeysfisher]

The M6 3-18x intrests me as well... I just can't figure out how the illumination works, the only knob i'm seeing is the turrets and parallax adjustment.

Per Leupold tactical rep (Steven) the current model is not illuminated. The illuminated version will be released sometime in the future. I asked twice to verify...

I've been playing with the VX-6 Multigun for a few weeks now, and will order the MK-6 TMR once they start shipping. I'll post a review once I have both in-hand.

[bp7178]

Per Leupold tactical rep (Steven) the current model is not illuminated. The illuminated version will be released sometime in the future. I asked twice to verify...

I've been playing with the VX-6 Multigun for a few weeks now, and will order the MK-6 TMR once they start shipping. I'll post a review once I have both in-hand.

I had a feeling that was the case.

Can you post some quick thoughts on the eyebox of the VX6, as it compares to say the TR24 or another 1-4x?

[lwrkeysfisher]

I do not have a 1-4 currently, but I tested it against my NF 2.5-10X32 last night and the eye box is significantly larger on the VX-6. I sold it awhile back, but I think it is about the same as my Accupoint TA24.

I also ran a few snap drills (@ 7yds) with the VX-6 and then a T1 on the same rifle, and the VX-6 was a bit slower (noticeably) on target. It became less noticeable though when I moved my nose to the charging handle---a position that is absolutely repeatable to me, but not comfortable with a magnified optic. That said, I'm using it as a hunting optic and am not worried about the speed difference. I will likely run it between 3-6X 90% of the time.

[bp7178]

The NTCH thing makes sense, as the posistion is easily repeatable provided you have a mount that allows the optic to sit farther forward.

I have always wondered when talking about speed difference, how much can be attributed to weight when compared to a T1. Any scope with a mount will be many times more weight, and its all posistioned on top of the rifle.

Leupold REALLY needs to have someone proof read the crap they put on their website. There is way too much misinformation. Just looking through the spec sheets, metric and standard measurements reversed, and just other stuff that is flat out wrong. The VX6 is listed with a FOV at 1x 223' @ 100 yards. In metric, its 35.2m @ 100 meters. That math doesn't really jive.

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-shoot...cludes-metric/

http://www.leupold.com/tactical/whit...0mm-34mm-m6c1/

http://www.leupold.com/tactical/whit...1-front-focal/

[krm375]

Anymore information on the release of the MK6 1-6??? I have a mount that needs to get filled.

[Singlestack Wonder]

Anymore information on the release of the MK6 1-6??? I have a mount that needs to get filled.

I spoke with Sportoptics last week and they said that dealers were still in the dark as far as hard delivery dates. The dates from Leupold keep changing.

From everything we've seen so far about the Mk6, it should be worth the wait.