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Thread: New S&W M&P15 MOE Mid MAGPUL SPEC SERIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    I am going to request stripped lowers, complete lowers and complete upper.



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    I hope that lower eventually can be purchased separately so a BCM or DD upper could be used. Back in 2009 I bought an M&P-15 stripped lower (standard trigger guard of course) and it's one of the best lowers I've ever seen. Nicely flared magwell and smoothly finished - I'd expect similar quality from this new one. I hope the upper is high quality, it would be great to add S&W to the top tier!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    The S&W M&P15 MOE (old version) sells for $1249 MSRP on smith-wesson.com ... and for $950 at quanticotactical.com, $850 if you're .mil/LE. I doubt the Magpul spec rifles will go for $850, but there's a good possibility that they'll actually sell for a lot less than MSRP, just like every other S&W product. I just got a new M&P pro (long slide) for $405 + shipping from quantico, MSRP is $669. I'd imagine websites like quantico (and maybe G&R!) will sell the Magpul spec rifles for about $1000 before .mil/LE rebate. And hopefully Grant gets some stripped lowers too!
    I have found the most inexpensive way to purchase an AR is buy the lower seperate from the upper. I have completed two ARs, one DD and BCM this way. Both have factory assembled lowers and uppers that I acquired from G&R and AIM Surplus.

    It has been my experiance that when a product like the S&W/Magpul middy come out they will actually go for higher than the MSRP at gun shops and gun shows. But you sound like you know what your doing and with a LEO/MIL discount or rebate you might come out on top.

    One has to shop around and look at things from all angles to get "the best" deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    I have found the most inexpensive way to purchase an AR is buy the lower seperate from the upper. I have completed two ARs, one DD and BCM this way. Both have factory assembled lowers and uppers that I acquired from G&R and AIM Surplus.

    It has been my experiance that when a product like the S&W/Magpul middy come out they will actually go for higher than the MSRP at gun shops and gun shows. But you sound like you know what your doing and with a LEO/MIL discount or rebate you might come out on top.

    One has to shop around and look at things from all angles to get "the best" deal.
    Unless buying used, I've found that it's always cheaper to buy online, even when you include shipping and a FFL transfer fee for the lower receiver. Gun shows almost without fail sell everything over MSRP. I guess they expect you to haggle? Gun shops also sell everything over MSRP or exactly at MSRP, but I've personally never seen a brick & mortar shop with a great deal on any firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay_Cunningham View Post
    I was unaware that the mid length gas system made the rifle inherently more accurate.

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    Longer sight radius, same reason why it's easier to accurately shoot a 20" AR with irons vs. a 16" CAR gas AR with irons at 200yds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robb Jensen View Post
    Longer sight radius, same reason why it's easier to accurately shoot a 20" AR with irons vs. a 16" CAR gas AR with irons at 200yds.
    Not to get into semantics Robb, but I think Jay meant that a 16" middie is not more accurate than a 16" carbine just because of the gas system. As you said, the sight radius helps the user shoot more accurately, but if you put an optic on it or long freefloat rails with the same sight radius, there should be no difference.

    People saying that a middie is more accurate, is somewhat misleading in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunderway View Post
    Not to get into semantics Robb, but I think Jay meant that a 16" middie is not more accurate than a 16" carbine just because of the gas system. As you said, the sight radius helps the user shoot more accurately, but if you put an optic on it or long freefloat rails with the same sight radius, there should be no difference.
    Thank you, this is what I was trying to explain earlier.

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    i think the colt 6920mp would be a better (more appropriately priced) option for the magpul fanboys. why the lack of chrome lining on the s&w? it'd be nice to see the lower released without the magpul markings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lethal dose View Post
    i think the colt 6920mp would be a better (more appropriately priced) option for the magpul fanboys. why the lack of chrome lining on the s&w? it'd be nice to see the lower released without the magpul markings.
    Wouldn't one lose the Magpul-ish lower with the Colt option? Isn't the lower on the S&W what people are excited about in the first place?

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    its not chrome lined because its melonited

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunderway View Post
    Not to get into semantics Robb, but I think Jay meant that a 16" middie is not more accurate than a 16" carbine just because of the gas system. As you said, the sight radius helps the user shoot more accurately, but if you put an optic on it or long freefloat rails with the same sight radius, there should be no difference.

    People saying that a middie is more accurate, is somewhat misleading in my mind.
    Sure they could have worded it differently but it would have even confused more people, let alone 'gun people'. Match "Triggers" help with accuracy too, not that rifle is any more accurate but it just easier to shoot more accurately.
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