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    Tell me about a NFA Trust?

    My FFL dealer just told me not to get a typical trust but an NFA Trust. He said it was a different from trusts most make. He gave me an attorney that sets them up. Are there questions i should ask the attorney to see if it's just some typical trust? I plan on making a short barrelled 300 blk with a can on it.

    Thanks.

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    The two 'nfa' trusts I've seen done by 'gun trust' lawyers are just standard boilerplate trusts with a bit of nfa focused wording added. Things regarding posession and usage of NFA weapons, etc.

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    Contact David Goldman of the Apple Law Firm.

    This is one of his specialties, and he is the best in the field.

    http://www.jacksonvillelawyer.pro/la...y-1315473.html

    Going with the Apple Law Firm, you are guaranteed to have a top-of-the-line trust, and some of the best legal support should the trust be called into question in the future.


    If you go through an attorney that doesn't understand firearms law, you are much more likely to have your trust found invalid by ATF at some point down the road, and therefore would be in possession of illegally transferred/held NFA weapons, which is not a good thing...



    Really, it is a no brainer...

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    This is the precise reason that you should not use a trust written up by some local lawyer. You want a highly credible firm that specializes in the field, and understands all the ins and outs of the law to write up your trust, or you will end up with a finished document that is not done correctly, and increases your chances of having legal issues later on.

    Quote Originally Posted by vinsonr View Post
    The two 'nfa' trusts I've seen done by 'gun trust' lawyers are just standard boilerplate trusts with a bit of nfa focused wording added. Things regarding posession and usage of NFA weapons, etc.

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    My recent dealings with a local 'gun trust' lawyer were less than savory. Here is a breakdown of what happened:

    - Made appointment with lawyer, waited at his office for an hour and a half and he never showed
    - Gave him all of my info at the second scheduled meeting and wrote out a check
    - FINALLY received paperwork in mail 5 weeks after check was cashed
    - My address and the name I had given him for the trust was wrong
    - Called him numerous times and couldn't reach him, finally his secretary told me he was on vacation and I could just retype the pages that had the mistakes
    - Ended up retyping the ENTIRE document because the formatting was shot to hell and the whole thing looked like garbage (font face/size changing in the middle of sentences, etc), and the word 'Settlor' appeared to be auto-corrected on occasion to the word 'Senior'
    - Left numerous voicemails with the lawyer to see if he could review it again

    That was two weeks ago and he hasn't made any attempt to get back to me. A friend of mine has a suppressor with a trust from the same lawyer without any issues, but I don't really want to roll the dice. At this point I'm not sure what to do with it, I may contact this Apple Law Firm and see if I could email it to them to check out.

    Bottom line - don't go with some rinky-dink lawyer that thinks they know what they are doing. It has cost me a lot of time and potentially more money.

    If anyone in the Armstrong Co, PA area wants the name of the firm that I received this garbage from, send me a PM.

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    Oof.

    In light of the previous post, I'll share how easy it was for me to set up my Trust.

    - Called David Goldman at Apple Law Firm (GunTrustLawyer.com) in Jacksonville, FL.

    - Had a ten-minute conversation with one of Mr. Goldman's associates, regarding names, location, Co-Trustees, Beneficiaries, etc. I you don't live in Florida, Mr. Goldman's firm contracts with a local-ish attorney in your home state to ensure that your state laws are followed in the execution of the Trust.

    - In 3 days I received my Trust in an email from an attorney in my town. I needed a couple changes done to my original chain of Trustees and Beneficiaries, so the Trust was changed to suit my needs. I then printed the emailed Trust and...

    - I took my Beneficiary to my bank to sign the Trust and have the signatures witnessed and notarized. Most banks do this at no charge to their customers.

    - I took the signed copy of the Trust to my local attorney's office to have it executed. Badda-bing, badda-boom, we're done.

    Total cost: $600. No muss, no fuss, no worries with its legality, and I have the peace of mind knowing it's done right by a professional.
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    I'll trade you experiences haha!

    Guess that's what I get for trying to save a buck. Now I just have the DPMS version of a trust...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmitty View Post
    Now I just have the DPMS version of a trust...
    Now that is funny
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    What's funny is my Quicken Trust has been 100%. No ****stick lawyers screwing me over or anything else.



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    The Apple Law Firm web page has got a case of grocer's apostrophe. Usually I don't nitpick spelling and grammar, but when it comes to shopping for a lawyer it's hard to justify cutting any slack.

    Jacksonville Florida Gun Trust Lawyer works with NFA Trust Lawyer's in most states.
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