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    If you're going the trust route to avoid CLEO sign-off, wait a bit and that won't be an issue (as reported by Jeff Zimba from SAR)...

    http://www.subguns.com/boards/mgmsg.cgi?read=772656

    Jake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    What's funny is my Quicken Trust has been 100%. No ****stick lawyers screwing me over or anything else.
    Did you just use a standard revocable living trust?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmitty View Post
    Did you just use a standard revocable living trust?
    ditto, i dont think using a trust program yourself was wise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    What's funny is my Quicken Trust has been 100%. No ****stick lawyers screwing me over or anything else.
    This right here should be enough to keep anyone else from using a Quicken Trust..

    http://www.floridaestateplanninglawy...-and-ugly.html


    And this:

    http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2010/1...r-revocab.html

    And this:

    http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2010/0...valid-tru.html

    And this...

    http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/criminal-penalties/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    What's funny is my Quicken Trust has been 100%. No ****stick lawyers screwing me over or anything else.
    I am not a lawyer but.... This 100x over. I had a law professor look over my trust (yep for free) and I didn't tell them it was Quicken Willmaker 2008 version.

    And you know what they found???? Nothing! Said it was a great trust and had the "forever clause" that these stupid 'Gun Trust Lawyers" say they need to place in it. QUICKEN ALREADY HAD IT! Hahaha. Stupid Lairs I mean Lawyers. If you really want to know why it is important is that if any part is wrong or whatever that the rest of the trust stays in tact. But these 'gun trust' lawyers, who are basically leeches on society totally justified by them trying to pay off $100K in tuition fees, really are full of crap. These guys need to get a life and stop praying on people but because they keep coming up with these stories people actually believe them. These Gun Trust Lawyers are just sleez if you ask me.

    I was told that QuickWillmaker 2008 version has the info needed, was told to be sure that whomever is to get your guns is at least 18 years of age and have no felonies so that they can actually possess them. If you really want to be cheap (as I am) you can buy a used copy of Quicken 2008 on Amazon for like $10... just know that the newer versions of Quicken Willmaker/Estate Planners do not include revocable living trusts. Has to be the Willmaker 2008 version as they stopped placing them in there to make you pay more money. Money Money Money baby. That's the common word of the day I guess.
    Last edited by Javelin; 01-20-12 at 18:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaSierra View Post
    I am like shitting myself right now as we speak. I mean those infomercial quality Lawyer testimonials are so scary - I am like really shitting myself.

    It's a Revocable Living Trust not some holy grail or symposium covenant.

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    Waiting on mine as we speak. I have 3 cousins in a firm together. They contacted a Phila firm and worked in conjunction.

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    My problem is every single thing that I have read that says not to do it yourself always ends up at that website. No one else has ever came out and said they were screwed by a quicken trust. The only thing I have found is trusts with no beneficiaries making them invalid. IMO they are all over the internet trying to scare people into paying $600 for their trust. It doesn't help that with them you are paying 2 lawyers, them and whoever they refer you to. If your not comfortable doing it without a lawyer, fine, that's your choice and they probably do a decent trust, but no thanks. I'm not a lawyer so don't listen to me, but they aren't getting my money.
    Last edited by Skter505; 01-20-12 at 21:28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skter505 View Post
    My problem is every single thing that I have read that says not to do it yourself always ends up at that website. No one else has ever came out and said they were screwed by a quicken trust. The only thing I have found is trusts with no beneficiaries making them invalid. IMO they are all over the internet trying to scare people into paying $600 for their trust. It doesn't help that with them you are paying 2 lawyers, them and whoever they refer you to. If your not comfortable doing it without a lawyer, fine, that's your choice and they probably do a decent trust, but no thanks. I'm not a lawyer so don't listen to me, but they aren't getting my money.
    Agreed.

    Quicken 2008 user, here. I asked a local 'gun enthusiast' lawyer and he wanted well over 1K, which I thought was cost prohibitive. I would have applied as an individual if there weren't so many extra hoops to jump and having to do it again for each NFA item you get. Trust seemed much more feasible and Quicken was more user friendly than a lawyer visit IMO. This was just my experience, not trying to give advice or legal opinions.

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    Yeah, all these idiots that actually think paperwork might be important...

    I guess Evan Nappen, a nationally recognized firearms law attorney is just blowing smoke when he says that Goldman is the guy for getting trusts done correctly....

    http://www.evannappen.com/
    Last edited by DeltaSierra; 01-20-12 at 23:05.

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