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    I just installed a DD LPK on a recent build and was very pleased with the quality. As said previously, the trigger felt a bit heavy but very crisp. Good ol' mil single stage. I'd say, for the amount you could get for the trigger you may as well keep it for a spare.

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    no notch on the DD hammer i got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ford7379trucks View Post
    I know the Armalite is a nice trigger and the quality of Armalite is as good as it gets.
    Just curious about this statement, especially given your avatar. Why do you say this? Are you under the misplaced assumption that the Armalite selling rifles and parts today has any connection beyond the name, with the company that originally developed the AR15? That company disappeared in the mid-eighties. The current Armalite makes decent stuff, but hardly as good as it gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdxpilot View Post
    Just curious about this statement, especially given your avatar. Why do you say this? Are you under the misplaced assumption that the Armalite selling rifles and parts today has any connection beyond the name, with the company that originally developed the AR15? That company disappeared in the mid-eighties. The current Armalite makes decent stuff, but hardly as good as it gets.


    I've built at least a dozen lowers with ArmaLite LPK's. About a 50/50 mix of two stage and single stage triggers.

    What LPK parts have you personally used that are superior to what ArmaLite uses?

    I have used DD, G&R and other LPK's in the past, these are nice but I see nothing superior about them. The only complaint I have with ArmaLite is a few magazine releases had a less than perfect finish, pretty minor thing for me to snivel about. The fit and function was perfect.

    ArmaLite trigger pins have always fit very nicely for me, and have a nice finish surface. I prefer the unique bolt release. The single stage triggers, like all others is the luck of the draw. Some are noticeably better than others. Checking the spring and pins against known specs, they all meet the spec.

    The ArmaLite two stage LPK for $120 is one of the best bargains on the AR market.

    I think the ArmaLite two stage trigger is among the best you can use. I hand tune after about 500 rds and the results are every bit as good as any after market trigger on the market, plus it's easily adjustable in .5lb increments with a simple spring position change.

    My highest round count is only about 4k on these, but I think many well agree the FCG is a maintenance part like the BCG. YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin View Post
    The DD LPK I got about 8 months ago had an unnotched hammer. I hope to pick up another tomorrow and will report back which hammer it has.
    Had to wait on the new DD LPK but have it now ... Hammer again is unnotched.
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    i like my standard dd trigger than came with my dd rifle but i did replace it but it was fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin View Post
    Had to wait on the new DD LPK but have it now ... Hammer again is unnotched.
    Thanks again for the confirmation.Good to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdxpilot View Post
    Just curious about this statement, especially given your avatar. Why do you say this? Are you under the misplaced assumption that the Armalite selling rifles and parts today has any connection beyond the name, with the company that originally developed the AR15? That company disappeared in the mid-eighties. The current Armalite makes decent stuff, but hardly as good as it gets.
    I have this same silly purist statement repeated and thrown out at me frequently on forums as well as in person on ranges,and Im just not tracking on it.

    For the purists I also have to ask,just which original U.S. firearms manufacturer of distinguished name actually is an original company anymore?

    Hell most all of the oldest big name brands have been sold,reformed under new ownership and management mulitple times since their origin.
    Good example is Colt,go read the history.Or Remington and S&W for that matter.But we all call them Colt,Remington and S&W without slapping brands in the face with historical purist beliefs.

    That said,I guess if I wanted to be a purist and buy from an "original" manufacturer of distinguished name,I'd say that would be LMT for me.Karl Lewis has the same management and manufacturing company.He has also made innovations in the design.

    My question to folks chest pounding in regards to the "original Armalite Div.of" etc.,beyond Eugene Stoner creating the design and solely responsible for such,what did the original Armalite as a manufacturer ever do for enhancing and furthering design progression,commercially or otherwise in the time it was in operation?

    How many "original Armalite" manufacturered AR's do these same purists actually own,or have even seen in person beyond museum pictures etc.?

    How much market share did the "original Armalite"(and which phase of operation) ever have involved in the AR market,commercial or otherwise?

    In fact in the time that the original Armalite was in business it was passed around like a bad penny before it became defunct and the name sold to oversea's holdings.

    So what was/is so grand about the "original Armalite" company?

    Did they have the current specs and evaluations we hold true in todays current AR/M16/M4 configurations?

    If folks want to praise someone for original design,the payment due is to given soley to Eugene Stoner.
    The progress of the AR design has been driven by Colt since early inception.

    So,the way I see it Mark Westrom aquired the rights to the Armalite name and brought in back home to the U.S of A where it belongs.He has had the Armalite brand under the same roof,ownership and management for 17+ years with a business that has ran non-stop the entire time.

    Westrom in that time has also developed the mid-length gas system,his own improved bolt design and brought an affordable AR10 with converted high capacity magazine to the market during difficult political times.Has recently redesigned his AR10 to use the original "Stoner legacy" magazine.
    He was/is also the driving force behind the SPR.

    That to me,IMHO is more than enough innovative justification for an operating company to be worthy of being called,for name sake, Armalite Inc..


    Now,do I think that the current Armalite rifles are perfect?
    No.But they are not as nearly as bad as some folks would play them out to be either.

    IMHO Armalite could do a few details different with the M15 series and be solidly in the hunt with their competition.
    As example of personal opinion:
    1.Standardizing barrel twists to 1:7 or my preference 1:8.
    2.Improve build details such as stake RE castle nuts etc..
    3.Use the original design M16 type bolt carriers.
    4.Use spec'd 7000 series RE's.

    Some folks will want to argue HPT/MPI components standardization...that has been debated on this forum listing previously,and that can rest there as far as Im concerned without futher debate.

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...41#post1008341

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...620#post306620

    Otherwise I have no complaints with the current offerings from Armalite.

    Thats my opinion and it can be taken for what its worth.
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