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    Quote Originally Posted by bsmith_shoot View Post
    So, from what I gather, the 2moa dots are worse with astigmatism than the 4moa? The reason I ask, I just got, and mounted, a new 2moa, and it looks like a paint splatter to me. Im really dissapointed with it at this point. Would trading for a 4moa help me? Or do I need an optic change all together?
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    What setting is it on? I need to turn mine down of I get that effect too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    What setting is it on? I need to turn mine down of I get that effect too.
    Well, its kinda weird, but ive never had this issue with any RDS ive owned. I have run Eotech 512, 552, Aimpoint M2, M3, and 4moa T1's, and never had any bloom with my dots. Ive been using RDS for about 10 years, with 8 quality training classes under my belt, and over 3 years in fugitive apprehension. I train once a month, rain, snow, and bad weather of no kind stops us. Im not a expert, just an end user, but I do know how to use my RDS.
    What im worried about is this, ive been away from the red dot for a while now , using 1-4x scopes exclusively. In that time, have I developed an issue with my eyes? Is it an astigmatism? No matter what setting I set the 2moa on, it looks like a paint splatter, or maybe an octopus, lol. Could it be an issue with the T1, or is it my eyes, I wonder? If it is my eyes, what can the eye doc do to fix the problem? Ive never had nothing but perfect vision, so I know nothing about eye doctors.
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    I started wearing glasses two years ago while reading and using the computer. Now I really should be wearing them 80 % of the time.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    Concur with eye exam

    bsmith_shoot,

    The eye exam recommendation is a solid idea. I'd suggest a complete dilated exam and correction if indicated by an ophthalmologist (MD) or doctor of optometry (OD). Check with friends/family for recommendations--or your primary care doc if you have one. There are a number of other problems that can cause visual changes besides a need for glasses and should be ruled out. These professionals can supply answers in short order.

    I got glasses many years ago when I turned 28. I had perfect vision when I was in the service and the decline snuck right up on me. I was amazed the first time I wore glasses, trees actually had individual leaves.

    Kiwi57

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi57 View Post
    bsmith_shoot,

    The eye exam recommendation is a solid idea. I'd suggest a complete dilated exam and correction if indicated by an ophthalmologist (MD) or doctor of optometry (OD). Check with friends/family for recommendations--or your primary care doc if you have one. There are a number of other problems that can cause visual changes besides a need for glasses and should be ruled out. These professionals can supply answers in short order.

    I got glasses many years ago when I turned 28. I had perfect vision when I was in the service and the decline snuck right up on me. I was amazed the first time I wore glasses, trees actually had individual leaves.

    Kiwi57
    Thats what im gonna do man. Ive never had more than the standing a few feet back, and read the letters that keep gettin smaller, lol. I have always been able to read even the smallest letters.
    Thanks for the help folks.
    Brandon
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    Try looking at the Aimpoint dot through the rear BUIS aperture, the smaller one if possible, ignoring the front BUIS.

    You'll probably find the Aimpoint dot is perfectly spherical.

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    I've got a pretty severe astigmatism, but with good prescription shooting glasses, I have no problems with rds or other optics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsmith_shoot View Post
    .....ive been away from the red dot for a while now.....
    ......In that time, have I developed an issue with my eyes? Is it an astigmatism?.......
    ......it looks like a paint splatter, or maybe an octopus, lol. Could it be an issue with the T1, or is it my eyes, I wonder?......
    ......Ive never had nothing but perfect vision.......
    I had eyes like a hawk until my early 40's. Then things got a little fuzzier with each passing year. Before long I was wearing reading glasses, and needing a little more powerful pair every couple of years or so. Now at age 54, I need 200's to read most printing without difficulty.

    Also, the originally sharp dot on my Aimpoint gradually morphed first into a Micky Mouse head, and eventually a cluster of grapes. At first any glasses made it worse, turning the image into a roadkill-like splat. Just recently though, I discovered that 125's now actually clear it up a bit. My left eye sees only a single dot, which is also with my right eye but with a bit of a comet tail. At least I can now tell what part of the image to align with the target, and with this set-up have been able to shoot as well as my other limitations will allow.

    Once you reach my age, correcting for eye condition is a "moving target", so I expect future adjustments will continue to be needed. Good luck to everyone else getting older (which is better than the alternative ).

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    I have light starbursts with and without glasses/contacts. I just dial down 1 setting and I get a usable dot.

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    Update from my findings.
    I took the advice of several members here, and tried out a few things. First off, I flipped up the sights to view the dot through the ghost ring. It helped a ton. Next I moved the optic around on the rail, and found it was better again when it was farther away. When I put those things together with lowering the power a little, it made a really usable dot. I still had a "tail" that come off the bottom and swept to the left, but the main dot was good.
    My next step is an eye exam. I hope to completely fix the problem with some kind of corrective procedure, whether glasses/contacts or surgery.
    Thanks for the advice.
    Brandon
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