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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano5326 View Post

    The 51T improved the 18T, the 90T is a further evolution to address knuckle heads that over-tighten a 51T.
    What is over tighten? If it means that my M4-2000 can stops wiggling around on the end of my barrel with the Breakout mount I spent $90 on then I guess there are a bunch of us AAC knuckleheads!


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    Quote Originally Posted by infidelprodigy View Post
    Funny, I've seen over a dozen YHM cans work loose from their QD mounts. The most recent one was on a friends 700 when we were testing supersonic and subsonic loads. He has since sold it for a (gasp) AAC QD can.

    I have a 762SD 51T on my 700 and was able to hit a 6" plate as 1000yds. with 168gr ammo in front of a 20 person class. 3 times in a row. My 51T has no issues affecting accuracy.

    But hey, vote with your wallet guys.
    I have a SS Phantom 5.56 QD on an M16 that has 30,000 rounds through it, mostly full auto and burst, that has never loosened. It's a demo beater can.
    I'm an FFL/gunsmith, not the holster company. We specialize in subsonic ammunition and wholesale rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    Evolution does not always breed winners. Sometimes ideas flop and sometimes they work great. From what I've seen, a small percentage of 51t users actually have a problem with the mount wobbling. From that noise it seems as if AAC has redesigned their mount to fix the issue.
    I don't get your logic. The redesigned (91 tooth) is an entirely different can. As far as I know they are still manufacturing 51 toothers on all the cans that have been using that configuration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    Increased group size and an increased chance of a baffle strike.
    Again, what exactly are the deficits?

    How much are group sizes increased when can is on vs off?

    "chance" of a baffle strike? really? lets talk reality not some abstract chance.. tolerances are not tight enough with a properly mounted AAC muzzle device to permit strikes.



    My commentary isn't abstract rants, I have worn AAC baffles into large triangular holes (lots of auto w/ 10" pouring water on em to keep gun cool enough to train ) & used them to 600m (14.5" w/ mk262) without noticeable degradation in accuracy or performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Armament View Post
    I have a SS Phantom 5.56 QD on an M16 that has 30,000 rounds through it, mostly full auto and burst, that has never loosened. It's a demo beater can.
    I've never seen anywhere near those rd counts possible on SS cans, which show erosion much faster, nor an AR that can do that kind of rd count with a can... gas port eroded beyond belief & smoothbore at this point?

    Of course this is the internet & physics don't apply.. One gets MUCH faster degradation of barrel life, gas port and baffles with Auto and high rd count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano5326 View Post
    I've never seen anywhere near those rd counts possible on SS cans, which show erosion much faster, nor an AR that can do that kind of rd count with a can... gas port eroded beyond belief & smoothbore at this point?
    The can has an Inconel blast baffle which helps, but the can is definitely worn and eroded. The weapon has had several barrels, tubes, and BCGs replaced.

    Of course this is the internet & physics don't apply.. One gets MUCH faster degradation of barrel life, gas port and baffles with Auto and high rd count.
    Physics certainly apply which is why there have been several barrels on the weapon. This is a post 86 M16 that I use for demonstrations and basically beat the piss out of it. I didn't mean to portray that was a single barrel on for the entire round count, if that's how you took my post. Hell, I haven't had half that round count through a semi-auto with slowfire before.

    The tube and barrel get replaced after every demonstration, because they are worn. Other parts as needed, but those two are new every demo.
    I'm an FFL/gunsmith, not the holster company. We specialize in subsonic ammunition and wholesale rifles.

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    No one is calling anyone stupid. Was that word posted?

    Specificity in metrics was asked for. Imprecise language leads to unclear thoughts ( ala "hope & change" ) and is meaningless.

    However, your frantic accusatory responses may lead one, at best, to believe you have communication difficulties.

    A group "opens" 30% what does that mean, exactly? POI shifts in a direction? Shift isn't repeatable? .30 group now .39? 1.5 now xxx? Etc.

    IMO a muzzle device optimized for QD (and not all QD mounts are) is not a good choice in a bolt gun, where one may notice .25-.50moa difference. Certainly changing suppressors, and maring mating surfaces, will not lend itself to repeatability. QD is a compromise, realistically measure your requirements.

    One could hardly call www.snipershide.., and their pathological nay-saying and resistance to Horus methodology (Now widely adopted and broadly used by "A" game players and US Army, USMC guys that actually have experience in the realworld) a bastion of savvyness or relevancy.

    Precise language = clarity of thought. Have the best day ever!

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    backpedal.. funny. keyboard commando barbs from afar

    Delightful display of reading comprehension issues, lack of understanding of common industry terms & practices, topped with a frosting of insular angry ranting.

    I'm gonna have to categorically address your misunderstandings.

    1) "open up" means nothing. Does not speak to linear, circular, or other displacement of mean rds from tgt center or group center.

    2) Not previously "implying" on postings. I have dialogue with AAC engineers, was told some user groups were, of course, over-tightening their cans.. effectively torquing to 1/2 notch. It would then of course slip back at some point changing POI. However, for the record, now that I've been permitted a longer look at dismal postings, I surmise your not the shiniest apple in the m4carbine bunch.

    3) I wrote specifically of not using a QD mount on a bolt gun and you respond with a m110 semi?

    4)Because on chooses to write in bold black and use the term "fact" does not make it so unless your a talking head on tv, trying to sway ignorant masses, it makes no sense whatsoever. "A fact I cannot deny" Uh.. what are you trying to say. that whatever some guys unqualified post on the www must be true. That some random guys www postings should displace the data-sets derived from millions of dollars worth of institutional testing hundreds of weapon/suppressor/ammunition combos? Following that train o though.. SOF to adopt a dpms m4 cause bubba gumps on badasscommandowannabe.com says it's so

    5) My experience is probably relevant... I don't have the unrealistic expectations of equipment you do and breadth of experience permits knowing the proper tool for the job. And, professionals certainly view their gear with a more critical lenses than hobbiest. The consequences of blood & tears sting a little more than a light wallet from disposable income.

    Gotta go and leave you with the last rant. Muddying my www boots is a waste o time. Have the best day ever!

    Caveat Emptor!

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    Man there is alot of hate for AAC on this forum. Most other sites love them

    There is so much drama in the silencer industry

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    No, there is drama and hate when a company starts shitting on their customers. I don't hate AAC by any means. Their problems can be solved pretty quickly if they actually had people on payroll that gave a shit. Now they are Remington's problem.
    I'm an FFL/gunsmith, not the holster company. We specialize in subsonic ammunition and wholesale rifles.

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