Ak 47 vs. Ak 74 Which? and Why?

[CumbiaDude]

Just hit it with the garden hose or stick it in the sink and run hot water through it. The corrosive ammo is not a big deal.

+1 If you look at the chemistry of potassium chloride (which I have ) you find that the best solvent is... water! 900 times better than ammonia.

Are the muzzlebreaks on the Arsenals removable? I'd like to try the Battlecomp AKBC, but I thought I'd read somewhere the Arsenal's mb is welded.

On a standard rifle, yes. The only ones that wouldn't be removable would be perm-attached ones to avoid SBR stuff - I don't know if they have any of those.

Thank you

YW, dude! Good luck

[dirt_diver]

Awesome. Thanks for the answers.

[anthony1]

I have both, if your just plinking and target shooting get the 545 ammo is cheap 10-12cents a round normally, without even looking to hard.

If you ever plan on hunting with it the 762x39 is a good cartridge for deer/boar sized animals.

Either would do for SD if needed. My 545 has almost no recoil, its fun to shoot. 762 x39 doesn't have hard recoil, it just has annoying muzzle flip. l put a jtac47 brake on mine and its much better now though.

I also recommend arsenal, or even converting a saiga. You can have a nice russian ak with a saiga for 450ish for a basic back end converted rifle. If you plan on converting the whole rifle fsb,gb,hangards,threading barrel for brake, etc, your probably better off just buying the arsenal to begin with (ask me how l know). good luck

[sdacbob]

Are the muzzlebreaks on the Arsenals removable? I'd like to try the Battlecomp AKBC, but I thought I'd read somewhere the Arsenal's mb is welded.

The AK74 muzzlebreak is fantastic. I don't know why you'd want to change it.

[DeltaSierra]

Personally, I would recommend you get an Arsenal, whichever caliber you choose. The Waffen Werks rifle you posted has an American barrel (not hammer forged), and the Red Jacket rifle doesn't specify (plus I saw one particularly horrible Red Jacket rifle - my own builds were better quality). An Arsenal has a fresh factory barrel made on all the right tooling - you know it's good. No problems with keyholing from factory barrels.

As for 7.62x39 vs 5.45, it's a personal preference. I have one of each (that's the real answer ) but I haven't used them enough side-by-side to give an honest opinion. 7.62x39 has a bigger hole, but more recoil and poorer ballistics. 5.45 is easier to hit at range, since your errors aren't as critical. In fact, the 5.45 tends to have half as much drop or deflection from wind as the 7.62x39 (generalilzation).

They're both great, and they're both still in use. I wouldn't worry about ammo variety, though - 7.62x39 does have a lot, but 5.45 is just now starting to get new ammo out (Hornady's VMAX, for example). I think if you were to do 5.45, better to get in now than later.

^^ Good advice .

As a user of Arsenal rifles, I find them to be very high quality, and well worth the money.

[Moose-Knuckle]

Owning both I'd say '47.

Why?

Because it's .30 caliber.

The AK74 muzzlebreak is fantastic. I don't know why you'd want to change it.

I prefer to have a flash suppressor.

[Esh325]

With a good muzzle brake and recoil reducing stock on a 7.62x39, I don't know how you could argue about recoil anymore. The weight difference between 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 mags isn't as huge as people like to think. Basing on the weights of AR mags, the difference would be about only 2 pounds for 210 rounds. For accuracy and trajectory, I'll have to give it to the 74 guys. Can't argue it's a more accurate round with a better trajectory.

[dirt_diver]

The AK74 muzzlebreak is fantastic. I don't know why you'd want to change it.

But the AKBC is the best of both worlds, so to me the question would be why not use it?
I'm not interested in good enough, especially if I can buy better.

[Rdog1]

One more thing you might want to take into consideration is the mag issue. 74 mags are harder to come by than 47 mags. Not too many suppliers seem to have them right now and prices have been going up. A year ago, poly mags were ~13-15 bucks. Now they are hard to find for less than 20 and there is a very limited selection.

[Moose-Knuckle]

One more thing you might want to take into consideration is the mag issue. 74 mags are harder to come by than 47 mags. Not too many suppliers seem to have them right now and prices have been going up. A year ago, poly mags were ~13-15 bucks. Now they are hard to find for less than 20 and there is a very limited selection.

Truth. I got into '74s back in '04 after the AWB sunset. I bought '74 NIB never issued Bulgarian "circle 10" mil-spec mags for under $5.00 a pop.

I still have boxes of mags unopened.

These days you'll be lucky if you can find them and when you do there $30-$40.